I have found that the organization that calls itself "Jehovah's Witnesses" does not accurately represent Jehovah. A better name for the organization would be "Not Really Jehovah's Witnesses". Many of the individuals in that organization genuinely want to do what is right but they are being misled by corrupt leaders who twist the scriptures in order to gain money and prominence. There are individual Christians within the organization (and outside the organization) who are truly witnesses of Jehovah, but they have to be careful about expressing what they believe and hide it from the leaders or else they will be disfellowshipped or otherwise harassed and threatened by the Watchtower leaders. An organization that punishes people for telling the truth is "Not Really Jehovah's Witnesses" since Jehovah is the God of Truth. When religious institutions are destroyed, the "Jehovah's Witnesses" religion will be destroyed as an institution, and then those genuine Christians who are currently "captive" to the corrupt WTBT$ leaders will be set free to worship Jehovah without hypocritical scammers (those calling themselves "the Faithful and Discreet Slave" or their cohort minions) trying to pull the wool over their eyes and the money out of their pocketbooks.
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Your Opinion of Jehovah's Witnesses and Their Religion?
by Vanderhoven7 ini thought this fellow, not sure if he is pimo or pomo, who goes by the name anonymous, gives a fair opinion summary.. "i was a jw for many years, but generally not a particularly stellar example of one.
your question has two components, and i will address them separately:.
opinion of jws as a people:.
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Is There Concrete Evidence That The Org. Has Covered up Child Abuse?
by Vanderhoven7 ini hear of a plenty of personal testimonies of abuse but it is harder to prove organizational complicity.
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EasyPrompt said: "The scriptures show that they do not have God's backing."
Fisherman said: "Subjective and legally immaterial."
😂au contraire mon frère...
God is the chief subject of God's Word. His name is in there thousands of times. These people at the WTBT$ headquarters claim to represent Him, they call themselves "Jehovah's Witnesses" but they are liars. They don't represent Him. Their actions and teachings slander Him.
He will act for the sake of His name and for the sake of the victims of the WTBT$. He has the legal right to take vengeance.
Jehovah hates CSA. He hates the disfellowshipping doctrine. He hates all the false doctrines and misrepresentations by the WTBT$. He's warned them to change, but they've refused, so He's sending Jesus to destroy the WTBT$ along with all the other hypocritical religious institutions that keep hurting people while claiming to represent God. He has the right to destroy them. And when He does, you won't say "it's subjective and legally immaterial" because it will be clear He's the One having it done. He said he would right in His Word.
The WTBT$ has violated its own charter and has fraudulently misrepresented itself to donors. It has abused its powers. God will use the authority of the state to dissolve the WTBT$ and take all their stuff away.
Romans 13:4 "...if you are doing what is bad, be in fear, for it is not without purpose that it bears the sword. It is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath against the one practicing what is bad."
"New York Consolidated Laws, Not-For-Profit Corporation Law - NPC § 1101. Attorney-general's action for judicial dissolution
(a) The attorney-general may bring an action for the dissolution of a corporation upon one or more of the following grounds:
(1) That the corporation procured its formation through fraudulent misrepresentation or concealment of a material fact.
(2) That the corporation has exceeded the authority conferred upon it by law, or has violated any provision of law whereby it has forfeited its charter, or carried on, conducted or transacted its business in a persistently fraudulent or illegal manner, or by the abuse of its powers contrary to public policy of the state has become liable to be dissolved.
(b) An action under this section is triable by jury as a matter or 1 right.
(c) The enumeration in paragraph (a) of grounds for dissolution shall not exlude 2 actions or special proceedings by the attorney-general or other state officials for the annulment or dissolution of a corporation for other causes as provided in this chapter or in any other statute of this state."
The name of this thread "Is there concrete evidence that the Org. has covered up child abuse?" The answer is: Yes. The greatest evidence will be Jehovah God's own actions to have them destroyed as an institution. Then it will be clear they did not have His backing or approval, and that they were indeed guilty of covering up abuse, among other things.
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Sunshine Coast Evil Elder
by Tahoe infrom what little coverage i can find, that’s not behind a paywall:.
this person is the epitome of the evil elder.
truly evil.
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(It's not His fault, Tahoe, but He is the One who will fix it.)
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Encouraging scriptures for the day
by Kosonen inhello my friends,.
here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.
revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).
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"It just seems wrong bouncing bible quotes around on an Ex JW site. How would he like it if i kept on spouting foul language in reply ?"
It would just seem wrong to me if you kept on spouting foul language in reply - some other people might not mind if they're into that kind of thing - but I suppose you could ask Kosonen what he thinks if you really want to know his opinion on the matter.🙂
It seems to me that "Ex-JW" doesn't mean "opposite" of everything a JW is. You may be an ex-husband, but that doesn't make you an ex-man. (Well, maybe you're like one of the X-Men, I don't know, but you are still a man, right, is my point...)
Quitting the Bible doesn't make someone an ex-JW. It makes them ex-Bible. What we have in common is that we were either kicked out or driven out or we fled out of the JWBorg. That's what makes us ex-JWs - having a common religious "ancestry". Whether we believe the Bible or not doesn't negate being an ex-JW, or the mutual respect we can show for one another. I enjoy the different viewpoints and life experiences shared here for the most part (although I don't like the mean troll ones) but that's part of the forum atmosphere. I do appreciate very much the freedom of speech permitted. I know it won't last, times are changing, but I appreciate it very much while we have it. And I do very much appreciate both of you, Stan Livedeath, and Kosonen, even though you're very different.☺️
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Sunshine Coast Evil Elder
by Tahoe infrom what little coverage i can find, that’s not behind a paywall:.
this person is the epitome of the evil elder.
truly evil.
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from Scozzadog on reddit (posted one month ago): "A dispute over 10 hours’ worth of alleged video evidence has delayed criminal proceedings against a Sunshine Coast religious member facing more than 50 sex charges.
Video footage of alleged heinous sex acts was the source of debate as an ongoing criminal case involving a Sunshine Coast Jehovah’s Witness member is further delayed.
The 62-year-old Mooloolaba man, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, faces 55 charges including 21 counts of rape, 14 of procuring sexual acts by false pretences, torture and common assault.
He has not entered a plea.
His matter was listed for a directions hearing in the Maroochydore Magistrates Court on Monday, August 14, but he did not appear in person.
Three people, including the man’s former lawyer Adrian Hawkes, sat in the public gallery while it was announced lawyer Andrew Hoare had taken over the case.
Mr Hoare told the court he had asked for a USB, containing 10 hours’ worth of footage allegedly showing the sexual assaults, from police prosecutor Jeanette Grigoris.
His intention was to watch the footage and then cross examine the five alleged victims.
Mr Hoare said the USB could be sent to the office of the Brisbane Director of Public Prosecutions where he could watch the footage, or it could be disclosed to the defence.However Sergeant Grigoris objected to both requests. The request to disclose the USB was rejected by Magistrate Haydn Stjernqvist.
Sergeant Grigoris said the defence had ample time to watch the footage already and Mr Hawkes had previously wasted an entire day only watching one hours’ worth.
Mr Stjernqvist adjourned the matter until September 29 and said it must proceed as a committal hand up on the next date, unless Mr Hoare applied to cross examine more than one witness."
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/15xzzge/update_jehovahs_witness_55_sexual_assault_torture/
(from article one year ago): "Sunshine Coast detectives have charged a 61-year-old local man with 21 counts of rape following ongoing investigations into offences allegedly committed over a ten-year period.
It will be alleged the man utilised his position of religious standing within the Jehovah Witness community to sexually assault young men between 2008 and 2018.
On August 28 police executed a search warrant at a Mooloolaba address and took a 61-year-old man into custody.
He has since been charged with 21 counts of rape, 17 counts of sexual assault, 13 counts of procure sexual acts by false pretence and one count each of incest, torture and common assault.
The man was due to appear in Maroochydore Magistrates Court today, August 29.
The alleged offences relate to four male victims aged in their late teens to early twenties, and detectives are appealing for anyone else who may have information relating to the man that may assist with investigations to come forward."
https://mypolice.qld.gov.au/news/2022/08/29/rape-charges-sunshine-coast/
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Sunshine Coast Evil Elder
by Tahoe infrom what little coverage i can find, that’s not behind a paywall:.
this person is the epitome of the evil elder.
truly evil.
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Some info from the video clips...
Crimes from at least 2008-2018
arrested August 28, 2022
local accountant
born in Canada, also possesses a Greek passport
been Australian citizen since the 1980s
Father of two
also charged of incest and torture
Senior member of Jehovah's Witnesses charged with 21 counts of rape, 17 counts sexual assault, 13 counts procure sexual acts by false pretense, at least 4 victims, all in late teens or early 20s.
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Encouraging scriptures for the day
by Kosonen inhello my friends,.
here are some encouraging scriptures for the day:.
revelation 21:2 i also saw the holy city, new jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from god and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.. hebrews 11:10 for he (abraham) was awaiting the city having real foundations, whose designer and builder is god.. revelation 21:24 and the nations will walk by means of its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it.. revelation 22:1 and he showed me a river of water of life, clear as crystal, flowing out from the throne of god and of the lamb 2 down the middle of its main street (of the holy city).
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The WTBT$ banned Kosonen because he won't worship the GB.
Kosonen chooses to follow Christ instead of men, and he's doing what he thinks is right.
When he shares scriptures, it's because he loves God and people, not because of "counting time." He is sincere.
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Is There Concrete Evidence That The Org. Has Covered up Child Abuse?
by Vanderhoven7 ini hear of a plenty of personal testimonies of abuse but it is harder to prove organizational complicity.
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"Its a Perfect Storm."
It is. And the ones holding back the winds are about to let go.
(Revelation 7:1; Revelation 9:14; 2 Thessalonians 2:6-8)
The WTBT$ (and other religious institutions) are taking no note of the warning.
Matthew 24:39-51
"...and they took no note until the Flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be...if ever that evil slave says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ and he starts to beat his fellow slaves and to eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be."
The religious hypocrites are about to have their institutions swept away in the storm.
Matthew 7:27
"And the rain poured down and the floods came and the winds blew and struck against that house, and it caved in, and its collapse was great."
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Is There Concrete Evidence That The Org. Has Covered up Child Abuse?
by Vanderhoven7 ini hear of a plenty of personal testimonies of abuse but it is harder to prove organizational complicity.
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EasyPrompt said: "God's Law is the highest Law and God's Court is the highest Court."
Fisherman said: "Irrelevant in a Court of law and under this topic. You went off on a tangent. You deflect from the discussion here which is not a Biblical topic but only legal."
The topic of this thread is: "Is There Concrete Evidence That The Org. Has Covered up Child Abuse?"
@Fisherman, I did not go off on a tangent. This is both a Biblical and a legal topic. The men hiding abuse in the organization claim to have God's backing. The scriptures show that they do not have God's backing.
Maybe some of those Bethel spies who read this thread will wake up and get out of there before that day of vengeance so soon when the Watchtower is torn down. Maybe some of the elders reading this thread will wake up and go to the authorities now with the knowledge they have instead of hiding it and waiting for the law to come for them like it did for those elders in Illinois and now in Pennsylvania. Jehovah is not protecting the JWBorg. He is the One Prosecuting it.
WTBT$: Isaiah 1:11-20 is about you. Read it and weep.
There are many men at Bethel who have concrete evidence that the JWBorg has covered up child abuse. They should come forward with that information now before it's too late and they are being taken away in handcuffs.
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Is There Concrete Evidence That The Org. Has Covered up Child Abuse?
by Vanderhoven7 ini hear of a plenty of personal testimonies of abuse but it is harder to prove organizational complicity.
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