so many changes in the 2013 nwt seem needless and spoil familiar phrases.
take isaiah 41:10 in the nwt classic rendering:.
do not be afraid, for i am with you.
I think they stuffed up there changing "do not gaze about " .They could use that wording to warn against looking on the internet about JW`s ,and only click on JW.Org .
I really dont see the point in them revising the Bible as they do ? To make more money ?
But the Bible is not the only thing they revise to their benefit .And that is their history
They are masters at changing the early history of the "International Bible Students Association" IBSA / Jehovah`s Witnesses .
what song takes you back there?.
here's mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brb7rupqtsg&ab_channel=danielaaguilar.
"The first time I ever saw your Face "
Stephen Lett and his WT videos
so the cult is getting into film production.
i saw evans piece on the jws opening a studio in australia.
one thing i see is if they use the people who are drawn to acting one they will create internal stars.
I love the fact they keep S.Lett on those videos .I would never have become a JW, "If ever I saw His Face" on a video. LOL
the first 3 presidents of the i.b.s.a ./ jehovah`s witnesses / wtb&ts.. w.h.conley ,c.t.russell ,j.f.rutherford .. how many jehovah`s witnesses know that ?
how many ex jehovah`s witnesses knew that ?
the wt society teaches that jesus returned to begin his "invisible presence" in 1914 directing his attention toward the earth as ruling king.
Apparently the 3rd President Rutherford did become aware and taught Jesus began his rule in 1914 some years after becoming president.There is some evidence that Rutherford first mentioned 1914 as the beginning of christs second coming in the 1930`s.
"Jehovah`s Witnesses Proclaimers of Gods Kingdom" on pages 46 and 47 explains that in 1876 Second Adventist Nelson Barbour succeeded in convincing Charles taze Russell that Christs invisible presence began in 1874. { Apparently 1874 was first taught as the end of 6000 years of mans existence and Jesus return }
Page 133 mentions this again along with a footnote explaining that a clearer understanding of Biblical chronology pointing to 1914 was published in 1943. That footnote refers to the 1943 book "The Truth That Shall make You Free" that changed the date of Jesus return from 1874 to 1943.The Proclaimers book doesn`t mention any date prior to 1943.
Captives of a Concept Chapter 3
the first 3 presidents of the i.b.s.a ./ jehovah`s witnesses / wtb&ts.. w.h.conley ,c.t.russell ,j.f.rutherford .. how many jehovah`s witnesses know that ?
how many ex jehovah`s witnesses knew that ?
the wt society teaches that jesus returned to begin his "invisible presence" in 1914 directing his attention toward the earth as ruling king.
Thank you all for your response `s I`ll need to go back to the drawing board and check what I have claimed in my OP.
the first 3 presidents of the i.b.s.a ./ jehovah`s witnesses / wtb&ts.. w.h.conley ,c.t.russell ,j.f.rutherford .. how many jehovah`s witnesses know that ?
how many ex jehovah`s witnesses knew that ?
the wt society teaches that jesus returned to begin his "invisible presence" in 1914 directing his attention toward the earth as ruling king.
When people quote recent WT publications about what Jehovah`s Witnesses believed back in the days of Russell and Rutherford believed ,you have to remember that WT are great revisionists .
Look back at the original publications compared to what they now say they said and you will find nothing of the sort.
As an example WT now give the impression JW`s always taught that JC was to take up his rule as King in 1914 .and rule over survivors on earth.
What they really did teach was that all of the kingdoms of this world would be overthrown in 1914 at Armageddon and all of the faithful would be taken up to heaven .
No such belief about a paradise earth where survivors would live.
I wish I had never thrown out my "Proclaimers" book
according to the watchtower's insight encyclopedia : .
the catastrophic destruction of men and animals by an overwhelming flood in the days of noah, 2370 b.c.e.
this greatest cataclysm in all human history was sent by jehovah because wicked men had filled the earth with violence.
pistolpete
,Many ex jw`s simply use the Bible and JW`s belief in it to drive home a point .
It doesnt mean that they themselves believe it.
the first 3 presidents of the i.b.s.a ./ jehovah`s witnesses / wtb&ts.. w.h.conley ,c.t.russell ,j.f.rutherford .. how many jehovah`s witnesses know that ?
how many ex jehovah`s witnesses knew that ?
the wt society teaches that jesus returned to begin his "invisible presence" in 1914 directing his attention toward the earth as ruling king.
The first 3 presidents of the I.B.S.A ./ Jehovah`s Witnesses / WTB&TS.
W.H.Conley ,C.T.Russell ,J.F.Rutherford .
How many Jehovah`s Witnesses know that ? How many ex Jehovah`s Witnesses knew that ? I didn`t.
What does this mean ? The WT society teaches that jesus returned to begin his "invisible presence" in 1914 directing his attention toward the Earth as Ruling King
The, the first 3 Presidents believed JC had returned in 1874, as ruling King ?
Zions WatchTower and Herald of Christs Presence. ( not coming )
God knew that what they were teaching was not true and therefore they would fail his son`s examination on such an important matter.
Why didn`t Jehovah God correct their thinking by 1919 ? when they were supposed to have been accepted as the Faithful & discreet slave ? When obviously they were not ? Because they were teaching a false date of his return (Second Coming)
Information gleaned from the Proclaimers Book ,published by the WTB&TS ,Special thanks to
Don Camerons "Captives of a Concept" .
do any jehovah`s witnesses or ex jehovah`s witnesses even know what that sin is ?.
why is such a statement in the bible if its not identified what that sin is ?.
were the authors of the book just playing with peoples heads ?
Do any Jehovah`s Witnesses or ex Jehovah`s Witnesses even Know what that sin is ?
Why is such a statement in the Bible if its not identified what that sin is ?
Were the authors of the book just playing with peoples heads ? ....Jehovah ?
Why would a loving God put that in there and not tell you what that sin is ?
happy to be joining you!.
i am a 75 year old, who was baptized in 1968. had the full-on jw experience.
elder since 1974. reg pioneered 20 years.
Welcome RiverPeace ,I was a convert at age 20 converted my GF who became my wife and we stayed in the religion for 37 years wherin I brought up two boys in the religion ,among other family members .
But the good part is everybody is out except one niece.
Do I have guilt? My bloody oath I do ,but what is done is done and can`t be retracted.Both are now into their second marriage`s and are coping with a successful lifestyle now,and are happy ,one with two young children and one with a grown up son.
I find that with a lot of people who leave the religion and keep having problems emotionally is simply because ,they have left the religion but the religion has never left them.
What they need to do is let the religion go once for all time ,and the only way to do that is prove to yourself that you have been duped into believing a man made up religion ,an American made up religion that has used scriptures taken out of context ,quotations of authorities also taken out of context and came up with their own religion that they claim is the truth.And only they have the truth .
If you have not read Don Camerons "Captives Of A Concept " I strongly advise you to read it ,and then get your son to read it and both of you absorb the message it contains .
I downloaded it from lulu I think many years ago for less than $ 10 I think.
It uses WT publications to debunk many of the claims they make asserting they were chosen by God.
It helps to break the physiological bonds we formed with the religion when we were programmed.
And of course this site particularly for me anyway.
I wish you and your family well ,and especially your son.
Take care.
