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  What if...Barbara Anderson was never disfellowshipped.

  by kneehighmiah in

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  with all these new lawsuits coming against the watchtower, i wonder what would have happened if the watchtower had revised their policies instead of disfellowshipping whistleblowers.

  i wonder if the gb regrets it.

  what if they had accepted that child abuse was a real issue and abolished the 2 witness rule?

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  happy@last

  People like Barbara and Bill have done immense work exposing what was already a problem. The publicly known cases are from the 1980's and 1990's so could not have been prevented. However the fact they have strived to make them public has hopefully given others courage to go to court and testify against their abusers including WTBTS.

  It would have been inevitable that these ones be DF'd as their consciences were opposed to the rules laid down by WTBTS. It may be a few years before we see how prolific paedophilia still is in JW land, the so called spiritual paradise.
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  Why don't parents of an abused child go straight to police, why go to an elder first??

  by FeelingFree in

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  i hope i don't come across as judgemental but having read a lot on the current child abuse cases and the different threads on here, i am left wondering why on earth a parent of an abuse victim would go to an elder with the problem first and not straight to police?.

  as a parent myself i know that if anything like that happend to my child (this applies to when i was still an active jw as well as now) i would not hesitate in going to the authorities as soon as i found out, it wouldn't of crossed mine or my husbands mind to go to an elder.

  maybe after we had reported it but definitely never as the first port of call.

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  happy@last

  You are correct, the natural instinct is to protect your child and go straight to the authorities. The sad thing is that JWs are not told to think for themselves and everything has to be done via thier rules, which they are told are for their protection!

  Before I left I had numerous discussions with felllow elders about this, who all said to me that they would go to the police without hesitation, I pointed out they would be doing so contrary to WT instructions and all they could say was 'so be it'.
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  Jonestown David Koresh at Waco and Heavens gate...any thoughts on death cults!

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. scandals

  these three men led there flock to mass suicide.

  i listened to the last recording of jim jones and it was chilling.

  people cheered and clapped when he told them it was the end...one older black woman protests saying "the children have a right to live" but she is shouted down by the other members saying "if they take our kids they will grow up to be dummies.

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  happy@last

  It was shocking and my heart goes out to all the families that lost loved ones in these places. What is also shocking is that people in cults will see these reports, comment on how disturbing it is, but not see they are in the same position themselves.

  If the WTS lost its tax exempt status and certain ones put into prison, the R&F would accept this as persecution. As to suicide, I cannot think how any scripture can be twisted to explain that it is the right thing to do in line with JWs teachings.
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  $13.5 million to a San Diego man

  by truthseekeriam in

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  http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/135m-awarded-to-bible-teacher-gonzalo-campos-alleged-abuse-victim-jose-lopez-281031832.html#.

  the national organization for jehovah's witnesses was ordered to pay $13.5 million to a san diego man who says he was abused as a child by his bible teacher.

  nbc 7's rory devine reports on oct. 30, 2014.

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  happy@last

  I would like to hear how the WTBTS 'strive' to protect children, they put more effort into keeping them silent and harbouring the criminals
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  New ExJW here for the first time.

  by WideAwake7 in

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  2. experiences

  i am here for the first time ...but have enjoyed reading others experiences that i feel i can relate too.

  i used to be an elder for more than 20 years .

  i have successfully faded with my wife and children.

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  happy@last

  Welcome here, and congratulations on a successful fade. All the best to you and yours. At the wedding you will most likely find some will love bomb you while others will avoid eye contact. It's actually quite surreal, keep your sense of humour about it.
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  Terminally Ill Woman Choosing To Die Completes Bucket list

  by Bangalore in

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  terminally ill woman choosing to die completes bucket list.. .

  http://nypost.com/2014/10/28/terminally-ill-woman-who-has-chosen-to-die-completes-her-bucket-list/.

  bangalore.

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  happy@last

  Not sure I could have the same positivity as her, especially when she is so young.
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  The Elders help

  by punkofnice in

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  a young jw i used to know (nice person), said within earshot to a non df'd ex jw he knew that his "..parents are up and down in the relationship and the elders(tm) are going to help.".

  the non df'd ex jw said to me that he considered that after the elders(tm) get involved his parents were bound to split up.

  the non df'd ex jw also commented: "what do elders know?

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  happy@last

  So. I wonder exactly how the elders(TM) will help.....ask about sexual positions? Read from their silly books?

  They will tell them to read the bible watchtower together and say that if they are spiritually strong what problems could they possibly have?!

  It makes you wonder how strong the marriage bonds of elders are that they can give such good counsel.....
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  can you help?

  by tezrichmond in

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  i need an access phone no.

  & pin for a khconf telephone link to any congregation in uk?

  i wanna sign in to one from time to time and get the low down.

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  happy@last

  Welcome here. Will the cong that DF'd you not give you this? I'm sure they'd be happy to count you in attendance!
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  Moving out after the borg

  by happy@last in

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  2. experiences

  i was delighted to hear of adjustments news, but it did remind me of what i'm sure a lot go through when they leave, here's a little of my story:.

  when i married as a jw, and when we moved there was always a team of willing volunteers happy to drive the van or move the furniture or decorate.

  additonally when you get married you have a list of items people want to buy for you, even if some had odd taste we received lots of needed and wanted items, sometimes 2 or 3 of the same type.. as a da'd person, also seperated from my spouse i needed to move home.

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  happy@last

  Hey happy: did you end up making new friends? It must have been scary starting from scratch. Do you have any tips?

  I have made some good friends, through work and also exJWs. I also have my kids so have plenty to keep me occupied. I did initially subscribe to meetup and still get the Monday morning email, but never had time to go to any of the events. I lead a fairly active life anyhow.
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  Jehovah's Witness Elder, Ron Felt suing Jehovah's Witness he disfellowshiped, for "Harassment"- Broadcasting a recording of JW Ron Felt......

  by Balaamsass2 in

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  http://www.dover-express.co.uk/8203-ironic-isn-t-says-jehovah-s-witness-court/story-23631047-detail/story.html.

  ' says jehovah's witness in court for harassing another jehovah's witness.

  by dover express | posted: october 27, 2014. by jamie rose exclusive [email protected].

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  happy@last

  Does this mean that Mr Felt will sue the next person who slams their door in his face when he calls on a Saturday morning also?

  I'm pleased for Mr O'Hare, he is free from a cult and he obviously needed to do something to announce his joy