Posts by Sunchild

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From JW to Pagan

by Sirona in

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i've noticed that quite a few people on this board have said that they are now pagan.

i'm starting to wonder if converting to paganism is something that many ex-jws do?

being a pagan myself, i am actually surprised at how i could choose the religion that jws probably hate the most.

Sunchild

Sirona,

The way things are to WHOM? We all experience things differently and see life differently. Reality is different from person to person. So I expect you might mean "the way things are" for you?

Just had to put in that you are SO damn cool. You've pretty much said everything I would've said myself, and the more I see of "my people" , the more convinced I am that Pagans are born, not made. It's not about looking for a religion: it's finding a name for what you believe.

Just out of curiosity, do you end up making accidental connections with other Pagans semi-frequently, too, in places where you're not looking for them or expecting to find them? Maybe it's just my experience, but it seems like we tend to be drawn to each other.

*Rochelle.

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"I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach."
-- Professor Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.

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Preparation for Dateline & online interest

by Kismet in

dateline is just 24 hours (give or take) away.

i really do expect to see a great deal of online activity as people search for more information.

jwd is likely going to be one of the most visited due to the large amount of information posted here on the subject, much by silentlambs themselves.. i also expect to see people visiting randy's excellent site as well as watchtower observer for copies of documentation,news articles, etc.

Sunchild

But I think there is just so much hate and "anti-WT" in this whole issue that it won't have a significant direct impact on JWs. They'll feel it when they go to the doors.

I agree, and it doesn't matter much to me if this piece changes any JW minds or not. They're not the ones I'm most worried about.

I hope the Dateline airing saves at least one person from screwing up their lives and/or their families' lives by joining the Borg in the first place. If that one thing can happen, it's good enough for me.

*Rochelle.

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"I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach."
-- Professor Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.

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Question:What do JWs hide from new converts?

by jerome in

one of the characteristics of a cult is deceptive recruting practices.

i would like to ask some specific questions about the accuracy of information that i have gathered thus far.. 1) how much do the jws stress on the usage of theocratic warfare.

in the field service?

Sunchild

They definitely do lie by omission, and one big lie that I was given comes to mind. They told me that I could leave the religion any time I wanted, of my own free will. What they DIDN'T tell me was that if I did, I'd be labeled as an apostate, shunned, and basically regarded as the spawn of Satan. I didn't find that out until after I was baptized.

*Rochelle.

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"I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach."
-- Professor Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.

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ex-jws and cognitive dissonance

by HildaBingen in

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mystikool told me i should endure.

he said it not right for me to drop out when there is battle to be fought.

so i no longer offended.

Sunchild

Speaking of cognitive dissonance....

Mystikool told me i should endure. he said it not right for me to drop out when there is battle to be fought. so i no longer offended. i going to speak my mind in this place.

Just out of curiosity, why are you really here? When I was a JW in good standing, I wouldn't have been caught DEAD in an "apostate" hang-out spot, online or off. Not with all the stuff I'd been told about bad associations and how getting involved with such people would mean giving my implicit approval of their actions. Besides, if the elders ever found out, I know I would've ended up in the back room faster than you can say "public reproof."

If you're a JW in good standing, how do you explain your being here and posting here? You can justify it to yourself, but I doubt your congergation would be quite so understanding.

*Rochelle, curious.

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"I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach."
-- Professor Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.

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Do you squeeze your bag?

by Beans in

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friends

i heard that when you make tea that you are not to squeeze the bag, is this true?

what if it is herbal tea?

why not squeeze your bag?

Sunchild

*snicker* There is something fundamentally wrong with this question.

*Rochelle.

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"I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach."
-- Professor Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.

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The best REMAKE of all times....

by LDH in

original artist: the temptations.

remake artist: george michael.

song: papa was a rolling stone.

Sunchild

Original artist: Michael Jackson
Remake artist: Alien Ant Farm
Song: Smooth Criminal

Dude, how'd I forget this one? That song's great!

*Rochelle.

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"I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach."
-- Professor Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.

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The best REMAKE of all times....

by LDH in

original artist: the temptations.

remake artist: george michael.

song: papa was a rolling stone.

Sunchild

I don't even know who most of the orignal artists are, so I'll just list the songs and the remake artists. Can't say if they're the best or not, but these are a few of my favorites:

"You Keep Me Hanging On"
-Kim Wilde

"Blue Monday"
-Orgy

"Shout"
-Disturbed
(And I actually know the original was made by Tears for Fears. )

"Tonight's The Night"
-Janet Jackson (~lovelorn sigh~)

"Killing Me Softly"
-The Fugees

*Rochelle.

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"I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach."
-- Professor Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.

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Just The FACTS Please!!

by Unclepenn1 in

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this is a new post but the continuation of a thread that was called 'wanting to believe in god'.

i thought the information was important, so i figured it would be best to start something new, rather than hijack a previous topic.

two people made similar comments, which i believe to be mistaken, and not what the facts of history tell us.

Sunchild

I know this is a bit of a tangent, but.... I'd probably have a lot more respect for Christianity and its adherents if the movement as a whole would simply own up to its mistakes. Not just the past ones like, say, the Inquisition and assorted witch burnings, but elements like the KKK, Fred Phelps and other extremist weirdoes acting "in the name of God" that no one wants to claim.

You can't solve a problem until someone takes responsibility for it. I think those less pleasant elements would be dealt with MUCH more efficiently if their more sensible counterparts would just stand up and say, "Yes, they're Christians. Bad ones, but they are still Christians. As such, we've got to deal with them because they're making us ALL look bad." But instead, it's always the same silly cop-out: saying "They're not really Christians" or "Not all of us are like that" and hoping it just goes away.

*Rochelle, going back to lurking now.

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"I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach."
-- Professor Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.

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How many found the REAL truth from the internet?

by Leander in

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if it was'nt for the internet i would still be stuck in the endless cycle of drone like meeting attendance and field service.

(technically i'm still in but not for long) i'm really glad that some ex-jws took the time to speak about the real truth.

for the longest time i always thought that what i was taught was correct, i never even felt the need to question it or validate it with actual facts.

Sunchild

I got out and STAYED out thanks to the Internet, too. I owe Freeminds.org and Randy a great debt of thanks.

*Rochelle.

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"I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach."
-- Professor Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.

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Human stupidity reaches new depths.

by Sunchild in

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friends

the offense is found on this page, courtesy of a paranoid fundy named jack chick:.

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5012/5012_01.asp.

you'd have to read it to believe it.

Sunchild

Bendrr,

It looks like even Jack Chick can get something right every once in awhile.

*Rochelle.

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"I can teach you how to bottle fame, brew glory, even stopper death -- if you aren't as big a bunch of dunderheads as I usually have to teach."
-- Professor Severus Snape, Harry Potter and the Sorceror's Stone.