I missed this first time around, but glad I found it. I have enjoyed your voice of reason and excellent way of expressing it in other threads. Thanks for sharing your story.
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Hi, new to this forum. Figured I'd let everyone know about my story before I got involved.
by JonathanH inif you just want the juicy details where i leave, i'll make disclaimer where it begins, if you just want to know what happened with the elders and organization after i realized it wasn't true, i'll mark that seperately.
we didn't do jack shit in service, or in the congregation.
maybe this was how jehovah came about?
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That definitely needed to be said Trevor. Thanks for expressing it so well. It's tough to have a discussion with those who have invisible goalposts.
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I personally don't see any disrepect and am totally into the discussion. There have been a ton of threads like this and although the persons discussing never change their viewpoints, others reading it can sure be enlightened, like I was many years ago.
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" ...but did you know that God has a name? A personal name?" Nine Billion of them.
by Duncan inthis post - and i warn you now, its a longish essay - is going to be all about names.
but to get started, a little quiz: - what do the following all have in common?.
mount fuji, the river avon, the sahara desert, lake niassa.. .
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Excellent!
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LURKERS: Is JW the only true religion? Here is my personal research!
by mentallyfree31 inare jehovah's witnesses the only religion teaching the truth?.
the statement that only jehovah's witnesses are teaching the truth is an extraordinary claim.
such a claim would require extraordinary evidence.
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I concur, great post!!!!
Grenade? Really?
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God: the central question
by ixthis inof all the issues affecting every person's picture of reality, nothing is more fundamental than questions about god.. is there one god, creator and sovereign of all?could there be more than one god?
or no god at all?if there is a god (or gods), then what is that god (or gods) like?nothing determines your worldview-and the course of your life-more than how you answer those questions.
yet some atheists like to make light of the god question.
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startingover
Great post JonathanH!
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Harold Camping's Kingdom Hall
by moshe inthe jw/wt doctrinal failures/coverups are already being compared to harold camping's failed endtimes predictions!
any news stories that have a camping-jw-wt tie up please post here!
please try and cut/paste the link and the story, so that in a year or two when the links go dead, we will still have the article for our archives.
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I sent 2 of those articles to a JW friend, pointing out that they made mistakes regarding Russell, and asked if he could identify them. Haven't got any response as of yet and I doubt I will. There are few JW's that actually know the history. Or care.
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Harold Camping's Kingdom Hall
by moshe inthe jw/wt doctrinal failures/coverups are already being compared to harold camping's failed endtimes predictions!
any news stories that have a camping-jw-wt tie up please post here!
please try and cut/paste the link and the story, so that in a year or two when the links go dead, we will still have the article for our archives.
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startingover
The similarities are sure there. Thanks for the posts.
But did those first 2 articles get the facts straight about Russell? My understanding is that he said the Jesus returned in 1874 and that 1914 would mark the end.
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Just looked over an old post of mine...........
by watersprout inand i started to read it.
it was the one where i openly wrote that i ''hear''.... i couldn't read it all, because as i reading it was causing chest pains.
think it was taking me back and i was reminded how certain ones hurt me with the things they said.
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startingover
I'm glad you brought that thread up. I personally thought that was a good one. Obviously you didn't like the results. I hope you can understand this, but I have thought it strange that only a couple people in the whole world were spoken to by Jeheshua Mischajah, and then when you made this post on a more recent thread about memorial time it was very telling to me. The first quote are Shelby's words:
The second is done by heeding our Lord's words about leaving one's gift at the altar while going to make peace with one's brother.
By making peace how?? By doing what?? I think i'm doing it right then i get it all wrong! *sigh*
Those words indicate to me that you are somehow following Shelby, which makes sense since you are the only ones using that name for your "lord".
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/208965/1/Wine-or-Grape-Juice-for-you-Partakers
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I've never even heard of BODMAS, BEDMAS, or PEMDAS and I came up with 9.