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  If the UN fails, what do JWs have prepared?

  by Anony Mous in

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  i was listening to a podcast about the current geopolitical situation, apparently the un has gone so far off the reservation being controlled by and trying to align themselves with anti-west values, a number of countries is attempting to kick israel out of the un because it is defending itself against iran.. off course, many african nations, some middle eastern, china and russia and a few european nations are all in some amalgamated economic league.

  if the vote happens while biden is still president, it’s unlikely, given the election, the party is willing to throw their anti-semitic base under the bus and wouldn’t veto it, hence why these people are considering doing this now and china/russia would go along just to create some mayhem.

  the un weeks ago voted to hand over a significant part of jerusalem to an unspecified state of palestine, this likewise went unopposed by the biden-harris administration.. if this happens, given the outcome of the next election, the us will almost certainly have to abandon and disband the un.

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  JWs on LinkedIn

  by usualusername1 in

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  when i'm extremely board i look up jws on linkedin.. steven is clearly counting his time.

  lol.

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  Reminds me of a CO in the 1980's relating an experience with glee about a manager of a Woolworths store having a bible study.

  At Christmas the Woolworths manager pulled off all the 'worldly' Xmas music/carols on the store PA and instead played back to back kingdom melodies.

  The audience listening to the CO broke into applause, but the whole thing made me sick.

  What would the JW's do if someone entered a convention and replaced their kingdom melodies with 'worldly tunes'...
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  JWs on LinkedIn

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i'm extremely board i look up jws on linkedin.. steven is clearly counting his time.

  lol.

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  'How did you learn about watchtower and come into their religion?'

  'Well, a pompous, self deluded, brainwashed religious zealot called Stephen Babb spoke to me with utter superior condescension on LinkedIn, and I immediately thought, I must embrace this pricks religion!'
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  NEW LEAKED ANNUAL MEETING VIDEO :KENNETH COOK :THE DISFELLOSHIPPING IS NOT GOING AWAY ANYTIME SOON

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/6ga9v7ffrwk?si=0lor5qquapmq8ck4.

  what you are about to watch is another leaked instalment from the recent annual meeting delivered by kenneth cook with the theme "help to tear down and build up" and highlights tge new take o disfellowshipping that will from now concentrate on major wrongdoing whereas minor wrongdoing will be dealt with kind and love.so the watchtower's at it again, rewriting the narrative like an old tv show that conveniently forgets a character's past.

  for decades, the organization has been the ultimate gatekeeper, quick to kick out members for even minor missteps—let's not forget how jehovah's witnesses have had to grovel and practically beg to be reinstated.

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  That WT - I can remember the road I was in when we were placing that - I remember an old fossil clever clogs brother naming the the old fogies on the front cover to the field service group.

  Now he, along with EVERYONE on that WT cover is long dead - and still they have the cheek to say the end is coming VERY soon - deluded brainwashed idiots...🤦‍♂️
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  Ramapo

  by Mit123 in

  1. watchtower
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  how much is ramapo going to cost?

  my daughter in africa meets in a cow shed for her meetings.

  i wonder how many khs in africa they could build if they dropped ramapo?.

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  DOUBLE blessings:

  Ram - A - Poo -POO
  
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  1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.

  a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.

  generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..

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  But i suspect most elders are wankers.

  You can't argue with that!!
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  1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.

  a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.

  generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..

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  One of my earliest JW girlfriends quizzed me thoroughly about this oral wt policy many years ago - she wanted to make sure I wasn't a JW 'puritan'..

  Another JW girlfriend I had imagined would be a real raver in this area turned out to be a massive prude.

  Then another JW lady I hooked up with that I had imagined to be oh so prim and proper, turned out to be the biggest raver of the lot!🤷‍♂️
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  1/25 WT: Oral and Anal sex are a go - if she's ok with it

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  he will not pressure her to engage in sexual acts that make her feel uncomfortable, that are demeaning, or that bother her conscience..... the bible does not provide details as to what sexual practices between a husband and a wife should be considered clean or unclean.

  a christian couple must make decisions that reflect their resolve to honor jehovah, to please each other, and to maintain a clean conscience.

  generally speaking, a couple would not discuss with others this intimate aspect of their marriage..

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  This was a hot potato in my old hall with lots of couples in their 30's who discussed it regularly.

  It stopped a newly interested husband of one sister making progress coming along - his wife was dreading telling him the jw bedroom rules... and when he found out he was livid with the religion.

  Don't know what eventually happened, but a year or two later his loyal christian wife got a massive boob job!
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  Experiences After Leaving

  by Freeatlast2024 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am writing to ask if anyone cares to share their experience and/or offer advice for people leaving.

  i was raised in the religion, and both my parents died when i was very young.

  i recently stopped associating because my conscience no longer allows me to preach or support the organization.

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  I totally agree with that!
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  Leaked Annual Meeting Video: "Expect Sudden Changes" Jeffrey Jackson

  by raymond frantz in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://youtu.be/uxqqyrrffow?si=wo0jotyvjg76oljk.

  well that's sort of related to the next talk on our program brother jeffrey jackson will discuss the theme don't be surprised by sudden changes, brother jeff you have our.

  attention well i'm sure we all agree with this fact in recent years there have been a lot of changes even since the last annual meeting there have been many changes some of them perhaps are a little surprising or may seem to be sudden but you know brothers and sisters when we look back on how these changes have come we can see that jehovah has gradually prepared us for each of these adjustments and changes let's review some of the recent changes we've had what changes have we seen with regard to our understand understanding of bible teachings at the 2021 annual meeting we received an adjusted understanding of john 529 it was explained that the resurrection of judgment will not be a judgment of condemnation rather it will be more like a period of probation the unrighteous mentioned at acts 24:15 will have an opportunity to gain everlasting life but their names will not be written wr in the book of life at the time of their resurrection to have their names eventually written in that book these ones will need to respond positively to the great educational work that will take place during the thousand-year reign then at the annual meeting in 2023 we gained enhanced insight into what we do know and what we don't know concerning jehovah's judgments we learned that the door of opportunity for people to take a stand for the kingdom does not shut when the great tribulation starts with the destruction of false religion at that time perhaps some will be like the egyptians in moses day who took a last minute stand and joined the exodus of god's people at the same annual meeting we adjusted our views with regard to jehovah's judgments of those who died in the flood and those who were destroyed in sodom and gomorrah also at that annual meeting an adjustment was made regarding the reporting of our time and activity in our preaching work instead of focusing on reports we try to make good use of every opportunity to witness then we receive the 2024 governing body update number two in that update we saw the need to adjust how we interact with those who have committed serious sins and have been removed from the congregation what other major adjustments have we recently seen in our preaching work the emphasis now is on studing bible studies and making disciples not on distributing literature to that end the focus is on studying meaningful conversations not just on using memorized presentations were you surprised by these adjustments perhaps so but as we look back we see how one adjustment in understanding gradually helped us with the next adjustment isn't it true that gradually jehovah has prepared us and when we look back on it we see how logical this training has been to refine our understanding but events in the world likewise have changed it's true sometimes in the world you have sudden changes for example the pandemic but often times change in the world is gradual isn't it true with regard to the view of morality homosexuality abortion even what's acceptable and not acceptable with regard to conduct all of that has happened gradually in the world and it's not until you look back and see how different the world is today with regard to those matters that we see that there have been a lot of changes but this can be dangerous because as things gradually change we may get used to gradual change and forget that there are some sudden changes about to occur uh let's take our bibles please and if you turn with me to the book of luke chap 21 now this is an example of sudden change in luke chap 21 uh notice there in verse 34 the words of our lord jesus are recorded and he said in verse 34 but pay attention to yourselves that your hearts never become weighed down with oving and heavy drinking and anxieties of life and suddenly suddenly that they be instantly instantly upon you it's interesting to note that jesus had already said that this day he was referring to would occur at a time that we don't think is likely so what lesson do we learn from what jesus said it's a warning isn't it that we can't just sit back and think well things are gradually going to develop we know which way it's going and maybe it's not going to happen yet you know got a little bit more wiggle room there with regard to the schedule but you see that's dangerous thinking now what we're going to do is consider two examples of areas where perhaps we could be a little guilty with regard to that for example our view as with regard to the number of anointed ones remaining on the earth now for many years what did we think we thought well that number would go down and down and down and down now i don't know about you but me i you when that report came out just how many how many partakers and and what were we thinking we probably you maybe we didn't say it but we were thinking you know the number will go down down down down and there'll be just a couple of old guys in a wheelchair who will get their reward well i'm exaggerating but that was sort of the feeling wasn't it but now what have we seen in recent years those numbers have gone up and up and not only that younger brothers have been appointed on the governing body now i know what you're all thinking two new ones how old are they we know you're not googling now but you will be but you see we need to be careful about what we're thinking with regard to the number of anointed ones left on earth you see 19 years ago i was appointed on the governing body even i thought i was too young now they tell me i'm not so young anymore but do we see the point what does the bible actually tell us with regard to this well it doesn't say the number would just dwindle down to just having a few uh older ones left no the great crowd of other sheep will be judged on the basis of how they deal with

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  https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/end-soon.php This is more in-depth of the various words and times the WTS has said the equivalent of very soon.

  I found this deeply disturbing - when my family joined the jw's in the 1960's they had already pushed back 'soon' so much over the decades.

  I don't know how the wt have the cheek/audacity to keep promoting 'soon' in their brainwashing rags.

  Perhaps they get away with it because those brought up on it from long ago have all simply died off!

  Here's a dictionary definition of 'soon'...