i have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.
as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.
"the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.
Where are all those statements I havent addressed. And everything on Disney isnt magic so I dont see what youre getting at. I simply used a definition I found online just like you are doing. What is your point?
Meanwhile you havent addressed my post on miracles and JWs, my car illustration, or my thesarus references. Not to mention the numerous Biblical statements that condemn magic and how it would be contradictory for Aaron to be a priest and not follow the levitical law code
i have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.
as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.
"the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.
Your last statement laced with profanity and over the top adjectives leads me to believe you have an issue wit the supposition of the existence of an almighty God. Does that mean you are an atheist? Does that mean you truly have nothing of merit to add to the discussion besides debate club lessons about logical fallacies?
i have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.
as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.
"the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.
You seem to have trouble making distinctions, as you did with the definition of a false analogy. We are not discussing individual viewpoints. We are discussing the men and women of the Bible and what was thought about magic and miracles. Jwfacts is he who said that numerous Bible characters used magic tricks. However this is false and completely out of harmony with what the Bible teaches on this subject. That is the issue here. Is that too complicated for you? Why dont you have anything of real merit to add to the discussion.
i have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.
as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.
"the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.
Well of course I committed a logical fallacy. After reading so much of jwfacts website they are almost second nature to me now. Besides my username doesnt say "recoveryFACTS" and I will readily admit I am wrong when it has been aptly demonstrated. I dont think Paul Grundy has that type of humility though. Maybe that is why he is no longer one of JWs.
i have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.
as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.
"the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.
Notice that it says the two things are not similar in the manner INVOKED. Miracles are invoked from God. Magic is invoked from Satan/multiple sources.
Hopefully this will make people do a little more research before they cut and paste and believe anything willy nilly just because someone who is considered intelligent says so.
Is jwfacta humble enough to admit he was in error? Will mrsjones5 ever say something that contributes to an argument? Will NewChapter and Finklestein ever believe in Gods word again? Will Outlaw ever tell a funny joke? The world may never know.
i have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.
as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.
"the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.
If you make such an elementary blunder on such a basic Bible topic, can everything on your website truly be regarded as jwFACTS? Why are you better at criticizing WT articles than you are at defending your own writings?
i have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.
as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.
"the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.
Well that is essentially what you said by attempting to justify magic by saying those in the Bible used magic tricks. Now are you going to address my arguments or are you going to continue to sidestep the obvious fallacies in this reasoning?
i have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.
as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.
"the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.
To those who are lurking, please go here: http://thesaurus.com/browse/miracle?page=1&qsrc=121 . It is a thesarus that lists all the synonyms and words of similar nature for the word "miracle". These are the type of synonyms you get for miracle: marvel, phenomenon, portent, rarity, spectacle, paradox, wonder, shock, unexpected, unforeseen.." Notice out of more than 400 synonyms you never see the word magic or sorcery.
Now if you use the same website and you search the thesarus for the word "magic" (http://thesaurus.com/browse/magic?s=t) you never see the word miracle as a synonym. Also, see the type of synonyms that are listed in relation to magic: "psychic, black arts, occult, witchcraft, wizardry, Satanism, demon worship, voo doo, magic spell,.."
There is an obvious distinction between the two. As if Jehovah's words weren't enough, now we have man telling us there is a big distinction as well. Anyone who refuses to see the difference is just purposely ignoring the evidence.
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i have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.
as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.
"the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.
Jehovah says: " "“‘ YOU must not practice magic."
Jwfacts says: ""'There is nothing wrong with practicing magic."
Would Almighty God contradict himself and lie on numerous occassions?
Also, I have watched Disney.
i have a question for the author of the website jwfacts.
as i was reading the sparlock article, i couldn't help but notice something seriously wrong:.
"the bible abounds in vivid fantasy, such as its many celestial descriptions, or the portrayal of warring kingdoms with imaginary beasts.. the sparlock message is confusing, as much for an adult as for a child, as the bible shows that god's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles.
jwfacts says: as the Bible shows that God's followers practice magic, even if they are usually referred to as miracles. For instance, the story of Moses and Pharaoh depicts Moses and Aaron battling magic tricks with Pharaoh's magic practicing priests. Aaron was a magic practicing priest himself; There are numerous magical stories in the Bible. Moses' copper serpent with healing powers, the burning bush, Balaam's talking ass, the Angel that killed 186,000 Assyrians, Jesus walking on water and turning water into wine, the apostles handling snakes, healing people and raising the dead. Being a magician does not therefore indicate that a person is a worshipper of Satan.
Almighty God says: "“‘YOU must not look for omens, and YOU must not practice magic." (Lev 19:26)
"When you are entered into the land that Jehovah your God is giving you, you must not learn to do according to the detestable things of those nations. 10 There should not be found in you..anyone who employs divination, a practicer of magic or anyone who looks for omens or a sorcerer, 11 or one who binds others with a spell or anyone who consults a spirit medium or a professional foreteller of events or anyone who inquires of the dead." (Deu 18:9-12)
"And I will cut off sorceries out of your hand, and no practicers of magic will you continue to have." (Micah 5:12)
Who should we believe ladies and gentleman?
