Sparkplug,
Glad I could make you smile, it sounds like you needed that. As little Orphan Annie said, and I will sing it with my best little girl voice for you; “the sun will come up tomarrow...bet your bottom dollar on toooomaroooooooo. Some times I just crack myself up.
Lola,
I agree with you but… deciding to commit and get married is a conscience choice, having a child is not always. I myself am one of the millions of “mistakes” as my dad has put it. I think most of us were not planned when it comes to our birth. That doesn’t discount a parent’s responsibility in the slightest but I doubt if David’s son was planned if I can read between the lines of his story. Non-the-less, to me, my boys were the best thing that ever happened to me. Their mother was a monster but I wasn’t in total control of my mind either and made a lot of mistakes also. It took me a long time to figure that out and accept it. Mistakes can be made but they can also be dealt with to the best of our ability.
Andi,
I do not have a completely warped sense of humor. It may be a little twisted but it’s not completely warped. Wait a second… now that I think about it,,,never mind.
Stop waving at me!!!! Big hug ya little munchkin.
David,
“your woman?” Is that kind of like “your truck?” Give me a break. Don’t use your or her fractioned heritage as an excuse. You need to look at “reasons” not “excuses”. With that comment the picture is becoming clearer. Put down your psychological bow and arrow and join the 21st century. Being bull headed on either one of your parts is not genetic, it’s probably more of a local cultural excuse for being stupid. I have read some of your other posts on other threads and you seem smarter than that. Use your intelligence to figure it out instead of your blood line and you just might find some answers. People here can help you think but they can’t do it for you. Being a man is not labeling your sons mother as “your woman”. You got out of the cult, that took some intelligence and some guts. Use them now in this issue. If you do, YOU will figure it out.
Dave
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My quest for the woman able to convince me to give up my freedom and marry?
by DavidChristopher inmy firstborns son's mother i live with asked me today if i wanted anyone else.. i replied "yes, i want to know every unmarried woman on earth, so i can insure i will never feel like i missed out on something.
i want to find my match, a woman that can convince me to give up my free agent status, and spend forever as her property alone.
she got really mad.
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Men are happier...this is soooo funny, but true...
by coffee_black inthis was emailed to me....had to share!
enjoy!.
coffee .
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“Except for the dying sooner than women part, Thank god I'm a man!!!”
There is an old saying about that. On average, why do men die at least seven years before their wife does?”
Because they want to.
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My quest for the woman able to convince me to give up my freedom and marry?
by DavidChristopher inmy firstborns son's mother i live with asked me today if i wanted anyone else.. i replied "yes, i want to know every unmarried woman on earth, so i can insure i will never feel like i missed out on something.
i want to find my match, a woman that can convince me to give up my free agent status, and spend forever as her property alone.
she got really mad.
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Lola,
The “M” word has cost me close to a million dollars over the years and has made me think about doing bad stuff. I’m not a bad stuff doing kind of guy but any human can be pushed over the edge. I was just lucky enough to recognize that edge and regain my sanity.
I love my kids and they still love me. The “M” word has been brought up to me a few times since the “D” word ended the last “M”. I just realized a few years back that it wasn’t fair for me to enter into another relationship where the “M” word might come up again and I would have to kill myself. Suicide is illegal in Oregon and they can arrest you for that.
I can’t go back and unpregnate my evil ex-wife and I would never want to. My three sons are way too cool of people to want to do that. They have their mother’s good looks and my brains. They all have girlfriends (one of them for over 10 years) and the “M” word makes them run like hell. I don’t see why the “M” word is something that defines love or commitment outside of old outdated tradition and the lining of the pockets of “D” attorneys.
That’s just my take on it and I do not expect others to agree. It’s just my experience.
Sparkplug,
“Then by that alone, you have possibly seen what I meant although I did not express it well.”
You expressed it just fine, I just expanded on it from my perspective.
“Sounds like you have come to peace with yourself by the above statement.”
Peace is appreciated a lot more after a long war. Yes, I am almost at a Buddhist monk level of peace and enlightenment but without all that spiritual psychological pacifier crap.
“Really I think what you said prior just hit a very tender wound with me today.”
Sorry, I didn’t mean to. It’s not my fault, I was raised in a cult.
“I bet when I am not in such a jacked up mood...maybe tomorrow...you may not sound as wise as you do at this moment. lol.”
Women get into jacked up moods? NO! tell me it isn’t true. Sorry, just kidding, I couldn’t pass that one up.
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My quest for the woman able to convince me to give up my freedom and marry?
by DavidChristopher inmy firstborns son's mother i live with asked me today if i wanted anyone else.. i replied "yes, i want to know every unmarried woman on earth, so i can insure i will never feel like i missed out on something.
i want to find my match, a woman that can convince me to give up my free agent status, and spend forever as her property alone.
she got really mad.
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Sparkplug,
Yes, I have learned a lot of lessons. Learning from a lesson is one thing, acting on what you have learned and not repeating some of those life lesson experiences is another.
I would have to completely understand every aspect of existence in the universe to understand where I fit in, or if I fit in, to know where I might fit it. I quit worrying about that a long time ago. It’s easier that way and it can drive you a little crazy trying. I had spent way too much time thinking way too much. I have not figured it ALL out but neither do I still want to try. I am content with what I do know and not concerned about what I do not.
I did stop trying about five years ago and I’m not dead yet nor do I think stopping to try will kill me. I have figured out who I am and how much I use to be messed up. I’m just letting that settle for a while. Then I’ll die.
Life goes on.
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My quest for the woman able to convince me to give up my freedom and marry?
by DavidChristopher inmy firstborns son's mother i live with asked me today if i wanted anyone else.. i replied "yes, i want to know every unmarried woman on earth, so i can insure i will never feel like i missed out on something.
i want to find my match, a woman that can convince me to give up my free agent status, and spend forever as her property alone.
she got really mad.
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Lola,
Sometimes, after you have done all you mentioned you spend a long enough time with someone and you realize they are not what or who you thought they were when you first met. It’s kind of like being a JW and believing it whole-heartedly at first and then finding out “later” what it is “really” like. If people never changed and circumstances never changed and other people never grew people might stay together forever.
It happens. Reality can be a real eye opener at times and realizing you made a mistake can not change time or take back previous mistakes. If that didn’t happen we would all be as lucky as those who are still with their first loves. I have no idea where my first love lives or if she is happy. That’s life and life goes on.
Is everyone on this board still with their first loves?
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My quest for the woman able to convince me to give up my freedom and marry?
by DavidChristopher inmy firstborns son's mother i live with asked me today if i wanted anyone else.. i replied "yes, i want to know every unmarried woman on earth, so i can insure i will never feel like i missed out on something.
i want to find my match, a woman that can convince me to give up my free agent status, and spend forever as her property alone.
she got really mad.
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Bikerwoman, tell the old man I said hi.
Sparkplug,
Its cuz I’m old and wise isn’t it?
I should start my own advice column. Ask Dr. Dave. Cynical but good advice for the naked thinkers.
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My quest for the woman able to convince me to give up my freedom and marry?
by DavidChristopher inmy firstborns son's mother i live with asked me today if i wanted anyone else.. i replied "yes, i want to know every unmarried woman on earth, so i can insure i will never feel like i missed out on something.
i want to find my match, a woman that can convince me to give up my free agent status, and spend forever as her property alone.
she got really mad.
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So you answered a personal question a woman asked honestly and she got mad? You’re kidding. I’ll bet you failed the “does my butt look big in these pants?” question also.
You're 35 years old and you will figure out how to answer this kind of questions women ask when you’re around 80. Basically there is no right answer. Women don’t want an answer to those types of questions, they just want the perfect response and they never tell us what the hell that is.
She was fully dressed when she asked the question wasn’t she? I could tell by your answer. There are two kinds of questions women ask that greatly influence how a man answers them. One is a question asked when they are naked and the other kind is one they ask when they are fully clothed.
They know this little trick. They know how naked turns all us guys into jell-o brains (which they think we are all the time anyway, naked just reinforces it).
You have a child together. That’s a big factor in this equation. If she is as messed up as much as you say she is there is a reason. And usually there is a reason behind that reason. If you want to work it out and you love this woman, find the root of those reasons and “help her” fix them herself. If you do not love her then find a job, move out, and don’t run back to her when you envision her naked again. It’s not psychologically healthy for the three of you.
If she cares enough about herself to work on her problems she will. If she does you may see a different person in a totally different light. If she doesn’t and wants to continue her life wrapped up in the comfortable familiarity of her problems she may never change. If you haven’t sat down and taken a good look at yourself to see if “you” might be part of “her” problem you just might want to sit down and do some very deep self analysis and try to be totally honest with yourself in that process. Honest self-realization can be very enlightening.
If you are thinking that there is a woman out there who is your “sole-mate” and would be perfect for you, wake up! That is fairy tale book fantasy and stuff they fill romance novels with that are marketed to Jr. high school girls. There is no perfect woman for a perfect man because “PERFECT PEOPLE DON’T EXIST”!
There is not any kind of stop watch set on finding a woman you would be very compatible with so don’t do any rebound stuff or jump into a relationship with the next set of perfect breasts. Take the word “hot looking” off of your list of priorities when looking for the next victim and take some time to figure yourself out before you hook up with someone else you have to start figuring out from scratch.
Above all else put your son first. He didn’t do any thing wrong and is not the reason for your dilemma.
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The Narrow Road
by AGuest into the household of god that is israel, and all those who go with... may you all have peace!.
i know that it has been some time since i posted last; working full-time and attending law school full-time sort of commands a great deal of... well, time... and as a result i have been a bit remiss in serving god's household, at least as far as sharing with you all here what i have received in the manner that i did previously.
thankfully, jah is not as "exacting" as many have made him out to be (as demonstrated by the life, love and compassion of his son, my lord, jaheshua mischajah), and so i have had the loving freedom to live my life, which i have done with much joy!
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SHELBY!!!!!! ya little rascal, how ya do’en? Your story reminds me of the one in the Upanishads about the razors edge. It was written a long time before the narrow road thing in the bible but pretty much has the same story and plot (go figure). Those damn Hindus were a bit ahead of their time when it came to god stuff. It’s good to see the rest of the god world catching up.
Hurry up and become a lawyer. I want to sue Minimus. Not for anything in particular but just because he’s a goof ball.
It’s good to see you’re still alive and having visions. I enjoy reading about your conversations with god.
Take care and big hug.
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have elders ever been sued successfully?
by silentWatcher inquote: what i am waiting for is one of their rank and file elders to get sued over this issue and some of the hospital liaison puppets to lose everything he owns because of it.
this point was brought up in the "big news has started" thread (and is now buried on page 3).
interesting point, and i wonder if anyone has ever heard of a case where elders have been successfully sued over judicial matters (slander / libel) or wrongful death (blood)?
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Going,
Your are correct, the responsibility lies on everyone’s shoulders. But, passing the buck back and forth is never going to resolve anything. An elder accepts the responsibility to lead, he should pay the consequences. It’s Satan’s fault, it’s this wicked system, they are spiritually weak, you went ahead of Jehovah, you didn’t wait on Jehovah, the sun was in my eyes…the JW religion is full of as many excuses as the German solders who dropped the gas pellets into the gas chambers.
The German solders had the words “god is with us” engraved on all their belt buckles and they thought they were on god’s side. So do the radical Muslims who continue to take innocent lives and so did the KKK members who hung black men by the hundreds back in the early 1900’s. All of them have leaders who guide their actions and pat them on the back when it is all over. Those leaders hide behind their titles and have the rank and file follower do the dirty work.
This board is full of good-hearted elders who finally said “enough”! Ask them if feeling responsibility for some of their “elder” decisions weighed on their deciding to get out. Ask them if they assisted in encouraging someone to let their love one die because of the blood issue. Then ask them if that feeling of responsibility would have been the same if they were not an elder.
I know you love your husband and you don’t want to see him harmed because he follows the direction of the JW leaders. But, acceptance of responsibility brings acceptance of consequences. A good heart is usually trumped by a manipulated mind every time.
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have elders ever been sued successfully?
by silentWatcher inquote: what i am waiting for is one of their rank and file elders to get sued over this issue and some of the hospital liaison puppets to lose everything he owns because of it.
this point was brought up in the "big news has started" thread (and is now buried on page 3).
interesting point, and i wonder if anyone has ever heard of a case where elders have been successfully sued over judicial matters (slander / libel) or wrongful death (blood)?
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Going,
That is my quote at the beginning of this thread and taken out of context it looks like I have some kind of vendetta against the elders. I do not. The full context of that quote is finished by the following:
“The R&F elders will not be able to claim they are innocent because they were just following orders. Once that happens and the story gets out, the watchtower leaders will loose their middle man management power of having janitors and carpet layers run their followers lives. The link in their chain of command will break in the middle and those poor uneducated elders will be used as scapegoats. The smart ones will either step down and take less responsibility in the congregation or have an epiphany of self-realization and honesty and become…. well, they’ll just become”.
My comment about one of them being sued over this was made as something that would be an eye opener to the average elder. They make life and death decisions about people and their families with out any real education on expertise in handling family problems, emotional or psychological problems or in this case medical knowledge.
They are being USED!!! They need a wake up call for them to recognize that they are being put in that position with out any real tools or education to make a life and death decision. I know there are a lot of good hearted and well meaning elders but as long as they unquestionably do what they are told they are as guilty as the watchtower leaders who cover their ass and knowingly manipulate the truth and the facts to cover up their many mistakes and represent those mistakes as “new light”.
A huge lawsuit on just a few elders might make the other good hearted ones wake up and realize they are liable for what they do whether they “think” they are following god’s law or not. My comment about this possible scenario was made to bring attention to an elder’s real liability and make them THINK.
I went up against my own brother who was an elder as well as a JW hospital liaison ten years ago in a life and death blood issue with my mom. My brother is a ditch digger for the small city he works for and the liaison was a maintenance man. They were being manipulated by the watchtower printing company to make my mom a martyr and let her die. They were both good-hearted people but blinded by the pseudo power the watchtower had given them. The doctor listened to my exJW sister and me and gave my mom the “questionable” blood fraction and she lived. If we had not stepped in and talked intelligently to the doctor she would have died.
So much for good hearted elders when it comes to life and death issues.
Dave