Posts by Seeker

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UN INFO FLYERS ON JW WINDSHIELDS?

by stocwach in

jw
friends

anyone thought of this idea for disseminating un issue to the rank and file?

in my opinion it would be pretty easy to print up a bunch of one-pagers from one of the websites that put all the info in a concise format, and distribute them at night during the "service meeting" in the kingdom hall parking lot.. what do ya guys/gals think?

Seeker

I have a policy:

If I get spam email, I refuse to do business with the company behind it.

If I get a sales phone call, I refuse to do business with the company behind it.

If I get a flyer on my car, I refuse to do business with the company behind it.

So a person with my personality would have more harm done than good by this scheme. You would be violating my space, and I don't appreciate it.

Plus you feed the JW paranoia into thinking Satan really has targetted them. Of course, like the fellow who walks up to women in a bar and says, "Wanna have sex?", he may get slapped 999 times and agreed to once, and he may use that one successful time to tell everyone, "It works!" So too, I'm sure you can find anecdotal evidence of successful results from slipping flyers on car windshields.

But you are going to piss off a lot of other people in the process, and with good reason.

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George W. Bush: 9.30AM Sept 11 2001

by 2SYN in

simon, please add a 'conspiracy theories' section!

hehe!

check this out...could it be true?.

Seeker

your car accident scenario was nice, but added little to the discussion. the fact is, youre trying to reach for something that just isnt there.

Lay off, dude. Didn't you read what I wrote? I said I could see your point-of-view on the topic by the use of my car accident scenario. Instead of just posting my conclusion as I often do, I posted the thoughts that were going through my head as they went through them, so I kept everything, even the stuff I was correcting on the fly.

I admit, his usage, though technically wrong, is probably a regionally-correct pattern, and thus I admit there was nothing odd about what he said.

For the second time.

OK?

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George W. Bush: 9.30AM Sept 11 2001

by 2SYN in

simon, please add a 'conspiracy theories' section!

hehe!

check this out...could it be true?.

Seeker

There is a spin,

Whoa! Quote me in context, please. I said there was no spin to my pointing out the meaning of a word used in a grammatical phrase in the context of trying to decipher its meaning. By the time we got to that point in the discussion, we had thrown politics out the window, and were just trying to figure out meaning. I was just genuinely trying to figure out some english usage by that point, which is why where was no spin involved.

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Does Looks Really Matter?

by butalbee in

does looks really matter in love?

would you go out with someone who was not physically attractive if he/she had a big heart on the inside, a great personality, lot's of things in common with, etc...i guess i'm asking what's more important to you the person on the exterior or who he/she really is underneath?.

lara

Seeker

But you can't build a relationship on looks. There's got to be more, what a person is on the inside is what makes or breaks a relationship. The nice ass is just eye candy.

That's the spirit, butalbee. You're getting the idea. May you find your ideal, a guy with a great inner self...and a nice ass too.

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Self Esteem

by larc in

jw
friends

self esteem.

now i have seen people write about the fact that they have low self esteem, as an xjw.

now, this not unique.

Seeker

Larc,

Your statement so surprise me, I did a quick web search. Indeed, some people are saying psychoanalysis is not scientically accurate. I see what they are saying. In the early days, before we understood more modern medical diagnosis and treatment for disorders such as schizophrenia, Freud thought that everything could be analzyed and cured. As medical understanding of the chemical nature of the brain has grown, analysis has cut back to what it is good at, and left the medical stuff to the psychiatrists to handle.

I agree with that. If you have a chemical disorder, you need a chemical correction.

However, I was not talking about chemical disorders of the brain, but issues relating to self-esteem (the subject of this thread). If this low self-esteem was instilled in childhood by our parents, this is a classic example of something that analysis can help.

I understand better what you were saying, but Freud is not discredited, unless there are analysts that are still trying to treat chemical disorders through therapy. As medicine has grown with knowledge, so has psychoanalysis. As long as you get a competent analyst, much good can be found.

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George W. Bush: 9.30AM Sept 11 2001

by 2SYN in

simon, please add a 'conspiracy theories' section!

hehe!

check this out...could it be true?.

Seeker

hehe, this is fun...

thats fine, you can stand by it, but the fact is, he didnt. he spoke what he meant, and until someone decided to spin it, no one even noticed.

There is no spin if I point out that the phrase, "I saw an airplane hit the tower" means, in grammatical terms, using standard english rules, that he saw---

hmmm...wait just a sec....I just realized something. Let's see, if I come across an auto accident aftermath, and I observe a car wrapped around a telephone poll, I could conceivably say, "I see a car hit that pole." And later on I could remark to a friend, "I saw a car hit the pole," as in I noticed that a car had hit the pole.

It's horrible structure, but it just may be a regional variation within this country. To me, it's completely wrong. Yet I can believe it may be regionally common in some places, and that would explain why some of us read that stament and took it one way, and others of us couldn't see this explanation until it was pointed out.

If someone is used to saying (incorrectly according to proper english usage) "I could care less," I'll call it wrong, for it is wrong. Yet it is regionally common in some places, and may seem correct to those who use it that way. In fact, if it catches on long enough and extensively enough, it becomes correct. That's english for ya!

What a strange trip this thread has been...

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George W. Bush: 9.30AM Sept 11 2001

by 2SYN in

simon, please add a 'conspiracy theories' section!

hehe!

check this out...could it be true?.

Seeker

i think he said exactly what he meant. you will continue to see it your way, obviously we all have our own opinions.....but i think if you look closer at yours, you might find that it is a result of your personal agenda with bush, and your continuing efforts to discredit him at every available opportunity.

I freely admit I don't like the man, yet I am fair-minded, and admitted the other possibility when it was pointed out to me. I won't attack the guy for something he doesn't deserve.

However, I stand by one thing: he mispoke. He may have meant what he said, but if so, he used improper english. And yes, it does matter. People hang on what the president says. Look at what happened to the Yen earlier this week when he got his words mixed up.

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George W. Bush: 9.30AM Sept 11 2001

by 2SYN in

simon, please add a 'conspiracy theories' section!

hehe!

check this out...could it be true?.

Seeker

i just re-read your first post, twice, and couldnt find that statement or even implication anywhere in it. you did say that you tried to think of it as another one of bushs "gaffes", but didnt see how this was possible.

You say you couldn't find my statement, and then you cite the statement I was talking about.

I read words and take meaning from them. What Bush said wasn't possible. If you added a word to his sentence, thereby changing the meaning, it makes sense again. It hadn't occurred to me that he didn't mean what he said. To me, words have meanings, and I like to use them with the correct meaning.

When I get a public figure such as Bush who mangles the language, I can sometimes have a hard time understanding if he means what he says. In this case, he said one thing, but meant something else.

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George W. Bush: 9.30AM Sept 11 2001

by 2SYN in

simon, please add a 'conspiracy theories' section!

hehe!

check this out...could it be true?.

Seeker

Of course I can accept the possibility. Didn't you read my first post in this thread? I said I couldn't think of another explanation but was open to the idea, and you are right, adding the word "had" to his sentence would explain his story. I'll chalk it up to another gaffe on his part.

Thanks for the explanation.

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George W. Bush: 9.30AM Sept 11 2001

by 2SYN in

simon, please add a 'conspiracy theories' section!

hehe!

check this out...could it be true?.

Seeker

I saw an airplane hit the tower

...is what Bush said. Not possible. I was watching it live and there was no view of that first airplane hitting the tower. They showed the aftermath only. Then the second plane hit, and it wasn't even clear at first that it was a plane. I was watching it live and the newscasters were saying an "explosion" had ripped the second tower. Only later, after both towers had been hit, did they notice from the side of the camera angle that an airplane had hit.

From the timetable that Bush was talking about, what he said he saw he could not have seen. Nobody saw what he claims to have seen.