Posts by waton

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Then there was light.

by Earnest in

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the universe came into being 13.8 billion years ago in the big bang.

after an initial flash, it went through a period known as the cosmic dark ages.

according to a new study, probing cosmic dawn, 250 to 350 million years after the big bang the first stars emerged bringing light to the cosmos.

waton

What was existing 13.9 billion years ago?

WfJc: assuming that there are inviolate universal laws, like the infamous " perfect human life to be sacrificed" applying in all domains, , ( tongue firmly in cheek here) , then

some natural laws reach back in time beyond the BB. ( Penrose, Krauss) example:

Energy is indestructible and can not be created. therefore:

minus 13.9 bys,and counting backward? it was energytime, eternal energy existing in timespace,

now we have "coffeetime, teatime" , Einstein's spacetime.

The Big Bang happened only at a single point in time, but time as a dimension stretches indefinitely in all directions, always has, always will.

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the herd of elephants in today's wt study.

by waton in

for friends of "truth" about the wt theme: "what do we learn from jesus' last words?

if you learned anything, even in the greatest distress you do not utter the sacred name.

the article is full of "jehovahs" but not once did jesus himself actually use the term.

waton

the most commonly accepted use and the most popular pronunciation of the day

.s3: and in the rush to distance themselves from the mainstream churches, together with debasing the "Father and Son" the the "superior authorities", wt writers took it upon themselves to further popularise, cloak themselves in that version. linking the name to the pile of their prophetic failures.

John and Mary were in Jerusalem at least until Pentecost.

Bc, thank you for that additional critique, blondi style.

We are discussin this, as it is all absolute truth, talking snake and all, point is wt writers do not follow the instructions, or example of the Jesus character in the divine name issue.

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the herd of elephants in today's wt study.

by waton in

for friends of "truth" about the wt theme: "what do we learn from jesus' last words?

if you learned anything, even in the greatest distress you do not utter the sacred name.

the article is full of "jehovahs" but not once did jesus himself actually use the term.

waton

How do you decide if you are overusing the divine name or underusing, or using it right?

DW: I would leave that to a personal choice for all. but

As the sanctity of the name is enshrined in the 10 commandments, lets compare it to the crown jewels. reserved for very special occasions, If replicas of them were used by every tom dick and harriette on every street corner, the importance, symbolism would be lost, depreciated, a condition the law mandated against imho.

By never using the name, Jesus created an aura of awe that is the exact opposite of what occurs at wt occasion,

A parallel in my mind is the immensity of the cosmos, the might of the energy locked up in the trillions of stars in the billions galaxies, that can never be expressed by a word like "creator" or "father." for

that energy is not even created. simply put:

If you exceed the frequency with which Jesus used the name, do you think you are better than him? will get a better hearing? inspire greater respect, proper awe?

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the herd of elephants in today's wt study.

by waton in

for friends of "truth" about the wt theme: "what do we learn from jesus' last words?

if you learned anything, even in the greatest distress you do not utter the sacred name.

the article is full of "jehovahs" but not once did jesus himself actually use the term.

waton

steve27 hours ago

Even in the so-called "Lord's prayer"

s: and that was a command. so our prayers should go to the father, ever mindful of the immensity of his person, his might embodied in his name, but not use it. if at all sparingly.

Even a life and death situation, that jesus faced, and was the setting for "the last words" watchtower cited above, did not justify or move Jesus, to invoke it. btw:

at the midweek meeting was cited the text that says; " --nothing can separate us from the love of Christ,--" but it ended up in the cloud of misuse of the sacred term.

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the herd of elephants in today's wt study.

by waton in

for friends of "truth" about the wt theme: "what do we learn from jesus' last words?

if you learned anything, even in the greatest distress you do not utter the sacred name.

the article is full of "jehovahs" but not once did jesus himself actually use the term.

waton

sorry, not a reply but a replay:

Studying the wt was never a fun time for many here, but last sunday's opus was a gift from wt writers. a father"s day gift, for June 20th was that holiday here.

The gift was, that the article showed, hidden by wt wordiness, that in his last words, jesus did not use the local name for the possible awesome creator, shaper of all, at all. Using the bible story:

he "fulfilled the law". such as " you must not take the name of your god in vain" Jesus never did, which can not be said for wt and it's followers.

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The First Time I Went Over 120mph (193kph) I Was In A ____________ ,

by Sea Breeze in

honda vfr 750.

waton

Used to teach, always in old planes with low stalling speeds.

DS: probably the Tiger Moth, fully aerobatic, always kept me sick for the week after the weekend's gyrations at altitude.

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The First Time I Went Over 120mph (193kph) I Was In A ____________ ,

by Sea Breeze in

honda vfr 750.

waton

Which is all to say that I'm becoming an old fogie.

GT: here is the contradiction: when we are young we are willing to throw away 80 years of our lives for a thrill like 120 mph. ( 56m/sec) whizzing by. when we are 80+, we are afraid to lose balance, the next second of life. .

120? at that speed , you are basically out of control, you can not brake and stop before 250 meters 800 feet down the road, unless you use a tree, truck to shorten that distance. and remember, trees hit cars only in self defense.

Jimmy Stewart said: "the safest way to win a race is at the slowest speed possible."

take a lesson from the pioneer's, walk : as slowly as possible between the N@Hs,

youall boasters here are lucky survivors, to live and tell. , nobody has proven the resurrection hope/wish yet.

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The First Time I Went Over 120mph (193kph) I Was In A ____________ ,

by Sea Breeze in

honda vfr 750.

waton

To those whom did this on two wheels, I salute you!

tbn agreed, the resurrection hope helps here. . also: doing on 2 wheels in a turn but in a car.

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The First Time I Went Over 120mph (193kph) I Was In A ____________ ,

by Sea Breeze in

honda vfr 750.

waton

Sea Breeze

seabreeze, the way things are going with foils in the water, the wind and on ice, sooner or later, sailing crafts, as you picture, too, will break the 120 mph barrier.

PS. sorry, the iceboat sailing record is already: ( not me, was only8 at the time. )

"The official iceboat speed record remains the one set on Lake Winnebago, Wisconsin, way back in 1938. It was (hold your breath) 143 miles an hour." from Wikipedia.

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the herd of elephants in today's wt study.

by waton in

for friends of "truth" about the wt theme: "what do we learn from jesus' last words?

if you learned anything, even in the greatest distress you do not utter the sacred name.

the article is full of "jehovahs" but not once did jesus himself actually use the term.

waton

for friends of "truth" about the wt theme: "What do we learn from Jesus' last words?" ,

If you learned anything, even in the greatest distress you do not utter the sacred name. The article is full of "Jehovahs" but not once did Jesus himself actually use the term. and

Why did Jesus say: " Eli, Eli, why have you abandoned me? " when he knew perfectly well this would happen?

Jesus died of starvation, his brain starved of Oxygen, and at that stage, the mind plays tricks, aka near death experiences.

so wt writers, follow Jesus' example stop substituting Jesus own choice of words " Father", "God" with the modern day version of the divine name.

because-- of consequences, and

You really depreciate, cheapen it. through overuse.