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  Loyalty to God ( or the Society ) Before The Familiar

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this week's midweek meeting has an item on this theme.

  as usual there is a video to show:-.

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodbibleprinciples/pub-jwbai_201611_1_video.

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  waton

  It is wt inc. , the elders they appointed who have to return.
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  Christmas star of Bethlehem to appear for 1st. Time in 800 years

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as spock would say " fascinating".. with 2020 being such a terrible year.

  are people of the christian faith going to look at this as a sign of god, to give them hope and renew their faith?

  coincidence?

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  waton

  every 800 years? no wonder the ancients turned to t stargazing to try to predict the future, because astronomy has a good record on that., now reaching back and forwaed in time and place thousands of years, to the second the kilometer.

  wt predictions. 14, 25, 75, 75 are a complete failure by comparison.
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  Loyalty to God ( or the Society ) Before The Familiar

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this week's midweek meeting has an item on this theme.

  as usual there is a video to show:-.

  https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/vodbibleprinciples/pub-jwbai_201611_1_video.

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  waton

  In the film, the son seems to be an above average kid, does not leave a messy room, when mom checks.!! so,

  The parents decide do break the relationship. On wt orders. For wt writer's fear that they too might discover something bad enough to give a good reason leave altogether.

  How to atone for this? to dull the pain?, create more pain! pioneer! aka self flagellation. Funny, how

  All these sob stories, whether it is "Andre' "or Andrea, always end up with the lead character pioneering', like in the fairy tales: "and they lived happily ever after" implied.

  Who pays for all this?
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  Christmas star of Bethlehem to appear for 1st. Time in 800 years

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as spock would say " fascinating".. with 2020 being such a terrible year.

  are people of the christian faith going to look at this as a sign of god, to give them hope and renew their faith?

  coincidence?

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  waton

  The 2 planets are in the night sky right now, You can get the perspective, an idea of the depth of space, with Saturn ~ twice as far away as Jupiter, and 1/4 dimmer, despite the shiny , icy rings. ---look west, then 30 degrees south and 20 degrees up.

  Outstanding guiding "stars" ??, only in bible stories.

  CS to you all, ( clear skies) as the astro phils wii greet you)

  P.S. Christmas here seems to be kind of a cargo cult, hoping that Rudolph will home in on the chimney with the gaudiest light display.
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  Fear > Facts (WT Study Article 12/6/2020

  by Jofi_Wofo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a doozy in today's study article brought me to post here for the first time in a while.

  once again, watchtower leadership is doing its level best to make their adherents as fearful of inconvenient facts as they, themselves, are.. "like timothy, we must also discern the danger of false information spread by apostates.

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  waton

  not EVEN part of the great crowd of other sheep?

  Lltr: according to wr, the great crowd does not really exist ye, t because the come out of the Great Tribulation, which has not happened yet, and which might not happen until 2075.
  
  
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  Fear > Facts (WT Study Article 12/6/2020

  by Jofi_Wofo in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a doozy in today's study article brought me to post here for the first time in a while.

  once again, watchtower leadership is doing its level best to make their adherents as fearful of inconvenient facts as they, themselves, are.. "like timothy, we must also discern the danger of false information spread by apostates.

  (1 tim.

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  waton

  Jo Wo : very eloquently expressed.

  my notes : # 4: could not learn wt stuff from the bible by yourself? right! the core wt doctrines have only a tenuous bible base.

  #6 Apostates dissenters really, have no spirituality? well try some of the people here, even GB members would be stumped to come off unscathed.

  #10. Christians as soldiers? yeah, once sworn in (like by baptism) to obey any orders. ment to kill, mostly the defenceless. executed for disobeying orders, desertion, cowardice. obey and be blessed, wt has never fulfilled a promise yet. except bestowing dubious honours pioneer, special, Po, Co, DO, ZO, GoBom

  #18 plan exit.? good advice. do it before HMS wt/org sinks after the last fatal tack, or the sails become as empty as wt promises.
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  JDub Beer

  by HappyDad in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just thought i'd put this out there.

  this is from a brewery in sarasota, florida..

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  waton

  HD: DUB? That is BUD (Budweiser) spelled backward. This Bud's for you!

  pc: Good thing that most germans are fluent in english now. for the rest it is the ZJ bier

  ZJ B: mostly froth, , and the rest is stale, old light. overlapping-ly ge-lager-t
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  Do Jehovah`s Witnesses believe the 1,000 reign of Christ Jesus began in 1914 ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if not ,why do they claim he took up his power to reign as king in 1914 ?

  do they claim that ?

  or is it that he has only returned awaiting for god to give the throne to him.?.

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  waton

  If Christ's " your kingdom come" came in 1914, we would be cheated out of 106 years in perfect paradise, just so the governing body can govern among his enemies.

  wt writers are preparing a similar trick for the end of the millennium. They consistently say that the chaos of the final test will happen at the end of the 1000 years, never stating ing: after that period is ended.

  we writers are killjoys, taking away quality time, coming and going. cunningly conning.
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  Jehovah`s witnesses not the only religion GOD is using now ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when confronted with angus stewart’s blunt question “do you see yourselves as jehovah god’s spokespeople on earth?” the answer that came from jackson’s lips was astounding.. “that i think would seem to be quite presumptuous to say that we are the only spokesperson that god is using.

  the scriptures clearly show that someone can act in harmony with god’s spirit in giving comfort and help in the congregations, but if i could just clarify a little, going back to matthew 24, clearly, jesus said that in the last days ‐ and jehovah’s witnesses believe these are the last days ‐ there would be a slave, a group of persons who would have responsibility to care for the spiritual food.

  so inthat respect, we view ourselves as trying to fulfill that role.”.

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  waton

  Longlivetherenegades

  thank you, very much. that is more than I need.
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  Comments on a range of topics

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi,.

  while focusing on completing my studies on the second temple period, occasionally i receive questions which help keep the creative juices flowing, and which help me shape my studies.. my responses are thrown off the top without any time spent in serious research.. https://jwstudies.com/my_responses_up_to_4_december_2020.pdf.

  doug.

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  waton

  Why did not God provide the Israelites with meat from Heaven as well as Manna as they wandered in the desert?

  How about the quails? (Hope they did not drop dead, because of the blood issue)