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  new covenant and covenant for a kingdom...the same?

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jw teach that at the "last supper", a covenant for a kingdom was instituted ( as i understand it ) and so it was only for the "anointed" who would become these kings.

  if we look at matt 26:27,28 ...taking the cup..."drink out of it, all of you, for this means my 'blood of the covenant', which is to be poured out in behalf of the many for forgiveness of sins.

  ( i brought this up in another posting.

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  The promise of rulership for the 12 was already given in Mathew 19:28. it was repeated after the last supper celebration, was again not part of it.

  The slight of hand that wt speakers perform at the memorial talk, to slip in the kingdom covenant instead of the new covenant, is set in all the deceitful outlines.

  In Israel of old, the Law covenant was for all, even the foreign resident. additional exclusive covenants were made for kings and priests.

  Jesus passed the emblems to disciples with a distinct earthly hope. not anointed at the time.

  If partaking of the new Covenant's symbols is indeed a prerequisite for salvation, as per John 6, wt is the deadliest organisation that could have been set up. Guaranteeing to kill 100 % of its members, because even the partakers die to go to heaven.
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  Secret Building Project?

  by Mum in

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  2. friends

  i watch a lot of ex-jw videos on youtube and read many of the comments.

  recently, i watched a video by an ex-jw whose videos i had never watched before.

  i don't remember his handle.. anyway, there was only one comment posted at the time i watched the video.

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  With all the war talk from wt writers it is logical that they put their money/ designs where their mouth is and build where survival is most likely, in cave like structures well above flood level. I would do it given a choice.
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  ...AN ELEPHANT in my pajamas (an alternative way of seeing the world)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an elephant in my pajamas.

  by the age of 2, i began noticing comedy was a verbal violation of logic.. in fact, groucho marx taught me an important way of applying my thinking in terms of logic and humor.

  by the age of 2, i had been taught to develop a bias toward “what was obviously logical” and to omit all else.. that was a social bias.

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  waton

  An avid writer on this forum suggested Wt bible research operates like an open for all crossword puzzle. here are some suggestions:

  word for a 160 year long lasting generation: "overlapping"

  word for arrival of 2075*: "soon"

  2 words for the anointed generation that goes to heaven at the outset of the GT, but passes away only after Armageddon: " Mission impossible"

  * 2 centenarians overlapping by 20 years since 1914. .

  Elephants, even in pyjamas, have a good memory, we shall not forget.
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  waton

  crossword puzzle where everyone agrees to solve the puzzle together and abide by the same rules. If you don’t, you are not part of the group.

  Now, that is a great illustration of wt/jws at work, resulting in everlasting life.

  false. it is really 8 million spectators watching the 8 players trying to correct their always wrong results, and staking their 8 000 008 lives on it. Take the example #1

  the current answer for " number for the generation of 1914 to end ?" answer: 2075 (2x age 101) - ( overlap 20 years x2) =162+1914 ~ 2075. -- example #2, wt answer:

  "word for 52 to 162 years?" wt answer: soon. wt writers are gambling with peoples lives, not funny, with stiff penalty attached, "Judgement will start withe the [socalled} house of God" aka beth-el.
  
  
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  ...AN ELEPHANT in my pajamas (an alternative way of seeing the world)

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an elephant in my pajamas.

  by the age of 2, i began noticing comedy was a verbal violation of logic.. in fact, groucho marx taught me an important way of applying my thinking in terms of logic and humor.

  by the age of 2, i had been taught to develop a bias toward “what was obviously logical” and to omit all else.. that was a social bias.

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  Humour infuriates Authority.

  absolutely true, found that valid for the Nazi bullies, Commies and local wt guardians.

  really a great OP!!!! a must read!
  
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  waton

  Wt includes all JW in this case not only the fds that God uses exclusively.

  you said it.

  wt has turned millions into false prophets, by making them repeat all the false teachings in the d2d and other ministry features.

  Can think of the stink of the "Superior Authorities" debacle, shame on us. and

  dragging the holy name down with it
  
  
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  How do Witnesses reconcile Isaiah 43:10 with John 1:1

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something does not compute.

  you are my witnesses,”declares jehovah, yes, my servant whom i have chosen, so that you may know and have faith in me and understand that i am the same one.before me no god was formed, and after me there has been none.

  isaiah 43:10. in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god and the word was god.

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  waton

  Interesting that the term "Word" is used to point to a means of creation, The "Word" also referring the JC in his pre-earthen life. Word involving acoustics in "speaking" structures into existence. Add to that, that

  "wisdom" is involved in the creative process too, as a nom de guerre for JC again.

  No wonder it is stupendous work of art, the universe.
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  Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?

  happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.

  truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.

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  waton

  We don't know

  or some claim that, but as one of the wt F&DS members said in Australia : " It would be presumptuous to say that Wt is the sole channel used by god ", or words to that effect.

  It is easy to blame the deity for wt's failings, flailing. wt doctrine is: the wt was appointed in 1919 to be the fds, given all the monopoly authority to feed the domestics. You pay with your life if you doubt or disagree.
  
  
  
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  so true

  by greenhornet in

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  waton

  support the nazis in what? If everybody knew about, and dwelled on the atrocities against the Jewish people, the Soviet female prisoners of war, many would have been less enthusiastic about nazi actions. but remember, Germany was also facing extinction, by an enemy that we now know was bent of eliminating a nationality if needed be. So, there should be a distinction between the extreme nazi ideology and the right to legitimate warfare that every nation claims for its defence. now,

  what does "covid" to do with it? If you are faced with extinction you will take the vaccine? btw, if you can get the shingles shot, take it, better than feeling you have been shot, wherever it hits.
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  New method to absolutely date Fall of Jerusalem.

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  for what it is worth to those interested.

  1914.. tel-aviv university.

  "biblical military campaigns reconstructed using geomagnetic field data.

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  waton

  "I agree with WT interpretation" Fisherman,

  When all is said and done, !914, derived from these dates, is a classic wt false prophecy, because they announced, predicted that in that year, the world would end and they, anointed all, would have a rapid ascend to heaven, clearing the way.

  Even 3 years later they still were stunned by that failure, denying it, by going at it again, with another like follow up,

  " The World has ended, Millions now living will never die." they will go down, or up with that.

  The evidence is cast in stone, or charcoal.