shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.
as per doctrine.
is still alive in heaven right now correct?
Re ransom claim: For one, Jesus should have been required to deliver proof that he was the "second Adam" by living, with the available angelic protection he claimed existed, naturally past the age of the first man. say, to a ripe, but young 10001 years. The light of the world, like photons, that do not age, ever.
then he would be the proven, believable equivalent. To live a life of sacrifice; not just a 3 day/nights sleep at a normal average life span age, of that era.
sometime within the last 2 weeks, someone took a sledgehammer to the pyramid monument in allegheny.
they stole the topstone, smashed the cross and crown emblem and removed the seal.. personally i'm surprised it lasted this long untouched.
although through the years russell's grave has been vandalized, it was always repaired by the bible students..
if these are wt old timers, partakers, ranging in age at death from `40 to 80, with an overlap of 20 years each, that would give them only 1914 + 80= 1994 as the date of the endgame. failed already.
better to go with David Splane's overlapping groups of super centenariens, older than Fr. Fr. Franz,( 1914 + 161= 2075. )
No disrespect for the dead intended, decorate, seed flowers on that bleak site instead
shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.
as per doctrine.
is still alive in heaven right now correct?
I don't see who He paid the ransom to. Vdh,
perhaps the hidden truth lies in Jesus' use of the term "the son of man came to--" in connection with the ransom, or betterment of the human race.
From the time that our ancestors were swinging in or under the trees in Eden or the Cameroons, it was procreation and death, untimely for the least fit, that let to the advancement of our species.
call death the price, or ransom that a species pays for longtime aka everlasting success. Even stars die, so the next generation can be richer in heavier metals, carbon even, the organic element.
A random ransom like arrangement. proton.
shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.
as per doctrine.
is still alive in heaven right now correct?
I don't see who He paid the ransom to.
Vdh, well to the one who imposed the death sentence in the first place, and who put the object of temptation in place too,
the ransom was deposited, payed , delivered ~ 45 days after the dying act of coining it on the cross/stake, an murderous act orchestrated by a "fallen" son of god too, so,
it is all in the family Archie would say, affecting mostly the state of mind, even now.
has it occurred to you, that death is the most essential tool for the advancement of life, of the universe even? A personal enemy perhaps, for the common good.?
shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.
as per doctrine.
is still alive in heaven right now correct?
The idea of the ransom comes from the concept that there was something going wrong with creation 6000 years ago. It really was a good production for 13 billion years, resulting in the universe, life and all the perfectly functioning species.
then a talking snake precipitated the idea, that the normal life and death cycle of all creation (including stars) , to be an abnormality for humans.
The ransom does not have to work if it is a contrived story in the first place. no quasi-cannibalism required.
good glass of wine under the full spring moon though.
mankind,s progress/regress continues unabated since the golgotha event, the "second" coming in 1914 even.
shower thought entered my mind the other day... jesus christ.
as per doctrine.
is still alive in heaven right now correct?
Great answers. ha ha. In its barest form, wt doctrine on the ransom is, that jesus had the right to eternal earthly life. he gave that up in favour of humans, and the better hope of himself returning to a, better, immortal spirit life.
The wt 144 000 do likewise, wrongly imagining to be the only ones in the new covenant for forgiveness of sins, , they too, are willing to sacrifice that right for the higher calling. now,
if only there really had been talking snakes, asses. did the story work?
The gambit worked for wtbts inc so far.
can you identify or show the difference in the group of words labelled a and b. a. last part of that last day.... year 1967 .
b. shortly before the last day of the last days..... year 2020 .
is the light getting brighter or going into darkness?
light is named such for a reason, it is very light. one square km of sunlight weights as much as one litre of water spread over that huge area,( or 2 quarts of water covering a square mile) and sunlight is very bright, it will blind you within minutes. Unlike
the light from redundant wt doctrines, which carried no weight at all, it is darkness, it is in effect repellant.
It is just a question of time before some current wt emissions will prove to be darkness drivel too. wt is repelling but never repenting. ( well, they said they regretted to have published the number 1975).
the watchtower—study edition | september 2022.
20 what an exciting time the thousand year reign will be!
it will include the greatest educational program ever undertaken here on earth.
a creative person that got a lift from her touch and riding the wave of wt "first love" involvement, when living in hawaii.
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anyone knows what happened in her later life?
A creative person that got a lift from her touch and riding the wave of wt "first love" involvement, when living in Hawaii.
Anyone knows what happened in her later life? 1975 to 2022 ?
the watchtower—study edition | september 2022.
20 what an exciting time the thousand year reign will be!
it will include the greatest educational program ever undertaken here on earth.
For dramatic effect a young Charles Russell should have been the one up-front doing the teaching.
Vdh, you are slipping, wt had CR resurrected in 1918, after a really short stay in she-ol, and he spirit co-directed 1919, 1925, 1975, and now 2075. wt illustrators should have him in the picture, hovering like a hummingbird over those trees.
