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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

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  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  waton

  wt literature showed that the Millennium would start circa 1975 but wt literature did not SAY that the “end” would come in 1975.

  Fm: It is understood, that The millenium is ushered in by Armageddon. The kingdom of 1914 might run concurrently with satan's exclusive hold on Earth, and the last generation, but surely not post Armageddon.

  You say beginning of the 1000 year reich and you say Arma-geddon

  7th creative day with the Millennium is 7000 years long although it is still very logical to believe it is even though the other creative days may be billions.

  wt now teaches that the creative days only apply to, describe the local conditions as seen from the Earth's surface, not the actual creation of photons, the sun or the moon.
  
  
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  waton

  1975, we got played, scammed, exploited and manipulated by the GB leaders of the WTS.

  J4R, IN THE MEANTIME AFTER 1969, WT INC KEPT BUYING PROPERTIES IN BROOKLYN AND WHO KNOWS ELSEWHERE. but so did I,

  because I could not believe in 1969 , when 1975 was studied in the book study, that Armageddon was 6+ years away, therefore , plenty of time to make a house pay over renting ha ha.was dragged into the real estate marked kicking and screaming. now creeming.
  
  
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  waton

  Jan, sorry to unintentionally have hijacked your thread, but wt printed 1975 in connection with the 1000 years. beginning, and Fm and I are quivelling about the end.

  Fisherman, . may be wt is thinking of the light at the end of the tunnel, I am thinking of the 25 foot mark at the end of a measuring tape.

  just a quirky expression of one of their past writers that they dare not abandon. They have to tread carefully, they never know what can of worms the ramifications in their story will lead to.
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  2. 
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  waton

  Need to look at the base text

  Fm: The base text mentions that the nations are already in the 4 corners of the Earth "whenever" (interlinear) "otav" the 1000 years are ended, and "satan" is released. so,

  come 3075 + hat makes it either a square disk or a 3 sided pyramid. where the perfect nations will be after a millenium under wt control.

  Wt writer's careful wording is usually not a question of the base text, but their hidden agenda.
  
  
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  waton

  final test with perfect humans just like with perfect Adam and Eve. —That has always been the teaching.

  Fm: correct, but are wt writers trying to gaslight the r&f by insisting again and again to say the test happens "at the end" and not after? are there factions that push an before the "4 corners of the earth" agenda?
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  Evolution News: Humanlike Footprints in Crete Dated to 6 Million Years Ago!

  by Disillusioned JW in

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  i find it astonishing that humanlike feet could have existed that long ago.

  i wonder if some non-human upright ape might have had that kind of feet that long ago.

  see https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/humanlike-footprints-in-crete-dated-to-6-million-years-muddle-archaeologists-1.10301706 and https://scitechdaily.com/oldest-footprints-of-pre-humans-identified-in-crete-six-million-years-old/ .

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  waton

  how about the fossilized footprints in the New Mexico sediment? ? https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/fossil-footprints-challenge-theory-when-people-first-arrived-americas

  3 times older than the 7000 year wt's A&E story, no wonder 1975 was wrong, without welcoming these new world wanderers.
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  2. 
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  waton

  it was stated that 1975 was the end of 6000 years of human history

  R 350, and the sentence in the book finished: it therefore appropriate that the 1000 year would begin in that year.

  That is a different issue to be dealt with because the Messianic Kingdom and the Millennium only address the consequences of the sin of Adam and Eve.

  FM: Wt keeps harping on the sovereignty issue, and that is what they want the armageddon repeat mess cleared up during their (7X7) days senario, during the rest day too 6X1 =7 . That is why in wt literature the final test happens "at the end of the 1000 years" not after the count past 1000 is ended.

  If you look at the jubilee year cycle, there is of course year 50, after the 49th year, 7x7 is finished.
  
  
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  JWs who are now paying the price of following the cult.

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my in-laws are two such people.

  people who pioneered and did not work and try to save, instead they made just enough to get by and waited for the end to come.

  now my mil is in palliative care and the state is paying for her keep, my fil lives in a dilapidated home and can not keep it up.

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  waton

  pp, These kids, could not go to university, because their father would have lost their elder positions. They are now in good paying trades, with the measly, wt scripted spirituality as MSs, and junior "elders"

  LGH, good observation, only one or too of The Great Generation were true, no holds barred committed believers and are in poverty, many others are in above average wealth.
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  2. 
  3. 
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  waton

  If I recall, JW teaching in the yellow Kingdom of 1000 years book published in the 1970s,

  F: but consistently wt has still, within the last year used their hackneyed phrase " at the end of the thousand years". which reflects their wishful thinking that after the 7000/1000 years are ended, there will no more mess to be dealt with.

  the talking snake would be highly displeased.
  
  
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  Help with 1975 please

  by jhine in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i answered a question on quora about jw flip flops .

  i mentioned, amongst other things , the 1975 debacle.

  how witnesses were told that armageddon was coming in the fall of that year.

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  2. 
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  waton

  Creative Sabbath would fit perfectly in time to fulfill God’s purpose for humanity: 6000+1000=7000

  F: wt still clings to that fixed time frame. They still, in recent writings refused to admit that the final test, destruction in the lake of fire will occur in the post-millennium period. In the projected wt land, it still al happens "at the end of the 1000 year rule" . not after. as the scriptures specify.