at least one of the wives would not have baubles hide beauty.
Posts by waton
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22GB / Wives ,wont voluntarily give up their lifestyle
by smiddy3 injust an observation viewing some of their on camera appearances , and their arrogance believing they are the only one`s used by god to reach and teach the people ,despite what gj said at the arc on the subject.. no doubt the gb men wear designer tailor made suits from the best tailors in nys ?
and their wives adequately provided for in a similar way ?
nothing from kmart or target ,walmart or whatever.. shoes are probably made from form fit cobblers to fit the individual ?
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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waton
Once it becomes apparent that an entire generation of JW's attains neither of the two hopes that JW's teach the Bible holds out for Christians, then we do have a new category. To deny it at that point, would be denial of reality.
TD. wt teaches three hopes, foremost: 1) never to die at all, ( --Millions now living will never die! ) since 1918, and repeated in today's wt publications. 2) to die and be resurrected
a) as an immortal spirit or
b) as a citizen of the millennial kingdom. ( "you will be with me in paradise").
to modify the "great crowd" teaching :
here is one way: declaring the Great Crowd to be "the Israel of God", because:
all partakers now, and in the past, (the apostles even) come out of the pool of people with an earthly hope, the 144 000 come out of the 12 tribes.
In 1935 wt told the OS not to partake, now, let John 6 prevail again.
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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waton
the Org having bought some time to still (somehow) be right.
V; wt bought more time still, (with our money), with the overlapping groups of centenarians; 200 years of consecutive life spans, with 2 overlaps of 20 years each (like F Franz) since 1914, gives wt to 2075.
wt just has the "anointed" wrong.
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The Bible - God's Word or Man's
by truth_b_known inthat is the title of one of the watchtower's seemingly endless list of books that was pushed out for sale placement in the jehovah's witness' ministry.
the title does ask a great question.
those who would deny that the bible is divine in origin usually point to failed prophecy, events that do not mesh with historic evidence, scientific evidence, or even plagiarism from other religions.
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waton
It's still a secret to many modern day observers who believe the earth is flat.
PTB the earth was flat during the temptation of Jesus, a really high mountain would, on a clear day you the Chinese empire beyond the himalayas. The Incas and Mayas too. Even in 1054 years from now, the Earth will have 4 corners again, , ( or be a 3 cornered pyramid perhaps to have volume)?
God could have opted for general relativity, the ancient mind most likely would have struggled to understand it.
He did, e = mc^2, in Isaiah 40:26. stars made from energy. one of the handful of scriptures that come close to reality.
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The Bible - God's Word or Man's
by truth_b_known inthat is the title of one of the watchtower's seemingly endless list of books that was pushed out for sale placement in the jehovah's witness' ministry.
the title does ask a great question.
those who would deny that the bible is divine in origin usually point to failed prophecy, events that do not mesh with historic evidence, scientific evidence, or even plagiarism from other religions.
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waton
Yes it goes for every book ever written not just holy ones.
PTB, of course the wt favourite " ALL scripture is inspired--" supports your view, ha ha. and it is true that without the eternal energy and fitting laws, the universe with us, would not exist. but the bible fan's special claim goes beyond that.
There are a few appropriate verses among the ~ 50 000, though, . One example in this week's zooming:
"Earth hanging on nothing" but actually hanging, against gravity by the "dynamic" energy of it's velocity, creating the centrifugal force. One could hardly call energy "nothing". and
the lacking support is seen in the fuzzy image of the shadow of the earth against the moon in an eclipse. so, no secret to any observant ancients.
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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waton
there will always be “other sheep” who will become the “great crowd” as they emerge from the great tribulation.
TD that is a point that deserves repeating. Only after the great tribulation will it be clear who is part of that crowd in the temple courtyard.
Without a doubt, if one of the anointed unrepentantly falls away, Jehovah does call another individual
That means The new partakers come out of that pool of candidates called "Other sheep", but rev 7 says that the 1444 000 are sealed out of the 12 tribes. so: biblically speaking,
the Great Crowd are the " 12 Tribes of the Israel of God " in the New Covenant.
JWs are "spiritual Israelites" but dont know it, dont touch the New Covenant emblems
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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waton
there will always be “other sheep” who will become the “great crowd” as they emerge from the great tribulation. TD
That is an unlucky pool of people who are in jeopardy to not please wt inc, and die unfaithfully before or during Armageddon. remember too, that
the Great tribulation is cut short to "save flesh." that is the great Crowd, not the anointed, because these want/ have to die to go to heaven. so:
The chosen ones of Math. 24 are the Great Crowd.
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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waton
Because there is an absolute zero prospect of "many" of these living till Armageddon, let alone surviving it, the current “Great Crowd” doctrine itself is going to have to change.
VdH, easy, the overlap of the anointed group does not happen in isolation, all living bneings overlap in sync, as they move through time. so:
it is an universal overlap.
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The Bible - God's Word or Man's
by truth_b_known inthat is the title of one of the watchtower's seemingly endless list of books that was pushed out for sale placement in the jehovah's witness' ministry.
the title does ask a great question.
those who would deny that the bible is divine in origin usually point to failed prophecy, events that do not mesh with historic evidence, scientific evidence, or even plagiarism from other religions.
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waton
How about Pauls advise that "Women should not speak in the congreagation"
I think this may be one of those instances where it was just an opinion expressed by Paul.
PTB, no, in verse 37 of ICor14 he declares it to be the "Lord's commandment" and:
If the bible is a product of the universe's intelligence heritage, do you think that is true of other holy writings too? They are just as an oddball read!
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1995 generation change
by Gorb innow, many years later, i remember the 1995 generation change, very well.. since early youth, hearing my father explaining in field service the 2520 years.
it was his main theme in the field.. with the change my doubts started.
with some jw friends we did not trust the organization anymore.
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waton
-That the heavenly hope was the only Christian hope from Pentecost until 1935.
-That the Ransom only directly applies to the 144,000 and the "great crowd" TDthat would put almost all the partakers, billions of dead churchgoers into the "earthly resurrection of the unrighteous" , but still be better than the hapless jws, that never partook, John 6. but whatever happened to Peter's hope of a " ---- new earth?
sorry, in wt weirdness, Jesus' ransom only applies directly, as a mediator, to the 144 000, not to jws now, the prospective members the great crowd.