Posts by waton

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something funny happened on the way to November--

by waton in

stude 138 this week is about jesus ruling; seen standing in heaven, sitting at the right hand, standing up for his people, sitting down again for judgement, riding ---but the portion, what he is actually biblical doing right now, col. 1:13 was never read or discussed.

even the whole section of the book's article was not read!.

next month jws are covering the land with their kingdom of 1914 and soon panda paradise saga, but will deaden into silence the ~ 2000 year old real possible kingdom of --- love.. was the whole chapter 138 read in your zoom room?

waton

higher/st powers jump on the wt bandwagon? ?

W: I meant to write: Superior Authorities, and supreme immortals, just waiting to be joined by the raptured anointed.

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something funny happened on the way to November--

by waton in

stude 138 this week is about jesus ruling; seen standing in heaven, sitting at the right hand, standing up for his people, sitting down again for judgement, riding ---but the portion, what he is actually biblical doing right now, col. 1:13 was never read or discussed.

even the whole section of the book's article was not read!.

next month jws are covering the land with their kingdom of 1914 and soon panda paradise saga, but will deaden into silence the ~ 2000 year old real possible kingdom of --- love.. was the whole chapter 138 read in your zoom room?

waton

Stude 138 this week is about Jesus ruling; seen standing in heaven, sitting at the right hand, standing up for his people, sitting down again for judgement, riding ---but the portion, what he is actually biblical doing right now, Col. 1:13 was never read or discussed. even the whole section of the book's article was not read!

next month jws are covering the land with their kingdom of 1914 and soon Panda Paradise saga, but will deaden into silence the ~ 2000 year old real possible kingdom of --- love.

was the whole chapter 138 read in your zoom room? was The kingdom of the son's love even mentioned, or discussed? bsw:

remember the resolutions at assembles, The kingdom news campaigns 1-13?

all fizzelt, did not stir heavens into action. come November, will the higher/st powers jump on the wt bandwagon? ?

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The Myth of being "Spirit Appointed"

by BluesBrother in

back in the first century we read that the apostles would "lay their hands" on someone and the holy spirit would be imparted to that one.

appointments of older men were made in this way - at that time.

in modern times the wts has claimed that their own elders ,min.

waton

rebellion against the Lord's appointed, as good as against God himself.

BB: disobeying Jesus, who is divine, "a god" or god incarnate, would be okey, correctable, reversible, according to his word. but

sinning against the HS, is the unforgivable sin.

No wonder brother and sister Bully Coordinator strut around like that. Even questioning their wt appointed power, position will irreversibly put you on the chute down to gehenna --By by. wave!

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wt organizationthimk (last week's study)

by waton in

for those who want to see how bad it really is, 2 thoughts: .

1) the article says "jehovah" gave gifts in men, but the bible in gal: 6 clearly mentions the one who ascended into heaven as the one, jesus, their reigning king, that does provides these " the captives.. of course when wt writers say jehovah they really mean the wt society.

and local elders, ms, really are wt appointees, now done by the co, a man with no assets.

waton

authority- without the accountability - which they would have, if they were inspired.

fJ: by claiming to be spirit appointed (down to a ms) and using the gifts of the spirit, they can load all the baggage onto god.

1914, 1925, 1075, malawi, rejection of alternate service, all god's fault. all for our testing.

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wt organizationthimk (last week's study)

by waton in

for those who want to see how bad it really is, 2 thoughts: .

1) the article says "jehovah" gave gifts in men, but the bible in gal: 6 clearly mentions the one who ascended into heaven as the one, jesus, their reigning king, that does provides these " the captives.. of course when wt writers say jehovah they really mean the wt society.

and local elders, ms, really are wt appointees, now done by the co, a man with no assets.

waton

they are guided by spirit,

os: The spirit guided Jesus too, into the desert to be tempted . . Some of the guidance that has come out of Brooklyn/ Warwick was sorely tempting too.

if things go off the rails, it is for our testing. It is all for your good from the org. trust me.

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wt organizationthimk (last week's study)

by waton in

for those who want to see how bad it really is, 2 thoughts: .

1) the article says "jehovah" gave gifts in men, but the bible in gal: 6 clearly mentions the one who ascended into heaven as the one, jesus, their reigning king, that does provides these " the captives.. of course when wt writers say jehovah they really mean the wt society.

and local elders, ms, really are wt appointees, now done by the co, a man with no assets.

waton

I have sat 3 feet away from a current GB member

JT: but surely that was not on a wednesday, when they act as the Government of the erathly part of the universal Org.? right?

wt has "spirit directed" taken out of their baptism questions, that do not conform to the formula Jesus stipulated anyway.

Wt control over the flock is maintained by thes"shepherds"and the wt meetings are designed to strengthen that stranglehold.

(shepherds are the most dangerous individuals to the sheep, more sheep die, are fleeced because of their work.)

wt is actually distancing itself from some of JC's or Paul's teachings, too churchy.

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wt organizationthimk (last week's study)

by waton in

for those who want to see how bad it really is, 2 thoughts: .

1) the article says "jehovah" gave gifts in men, but the bible in gal: 6 clearly mentions the one who ascended into heaven as the one, jesus, their reigning king, that does provides these " the captives.. of course when wt writers say jehovah they really mean the wt society.

and local elders, ms, really are wt appointees, now done by the co, a man with no assets.

waton

for those who want to see how bad it really is, 2 thoughts:

1) the article says "Jehovah" gave gifts in men, but the bible in Gal: 6 clearly mentions the one who ascended into heaven as the one, Jesus, their reigning king, that does provides these " the captives.

Of course when wt writers say Jehovah they really mean the wt society. and Local elders, ms, really are wt appointees, now done by the CO, a man with no assets.

As Jesus said, about these "gifts"" whoever wants to be great among you (or be god's gift to men (and women), must be your slave. So, is that not nice to have all these slaves working for you?

2) Among others, it mentions a couple having to quit their full time assignment because they unexpectedly were expecting ---a baby. Took them a year to get over the disappointment , losing their appointment. Really, what warped values promoted by wt as examples.

* thimk a joke by IBM employees to spoof the slogan "think" that was displayed in their offices to further their corporate cult-ure.

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Watchtower View on Resurrection - All Panda Bears?

by Sea Breeze in

a recent wt study was titled: “the resurrection reveals god’s love, wisdom and patience.

apparently there was a lot of speculation on how those resurrected will be needing to be taught god’s ways in last weeks wt study.

does anyone know how the watchtower tries to weasel out of the "resurrection of damnation"?.

waton

Apparently there was a lot of speculation on how those resurrected will be needing to be taught God’s ways in last weeks WT study

SB: apparently wt writers can not get off their mistaken belief that they have a lot to teach everybody else., and will continue to do so in the "New System". --no wonder, because

as true believers they are convinced, , that Russel, Rutherford, Franz are already resurrected, and aware, if not involved in wt's output

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Watchtower View on Resurrection - All Panda Bears?

by Sea Breeze in

a recent wt study was titled: “the resurrection reveals god’s love, wisdom and patience.

apparently there was a lot of speculation on how those resurrected will be needing to be taught god’s ways in last weeks wt study.

does anyone know how the watchtower tries to weasel out of the "resurrection of damnation"?.

waton

1) Bottom line is - At death, the consciousness survives
2): So the righteous dead are comforted in heaven until the rapture

,S B, yeah, thanks for the insights ino the spin of non-wt "scholars" on this.

1) death being less numbing than total anesthesia?

I had terrible things done to me on the operating table, totally unconscious, gratefully. Death is a less effective painkiller than a chemical?

2) Like the reverse rapture quoted above, A "souls or spirit" already up there, getting into a body down here, and the ascending again? Interesting thoughts, but without being deliberately irreverend,

what can one expect from a story starting with the Gen !:! mistake. and based on a talking snake plot? fun plodding through though!

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Watchtower View on Resurrection - All Panda Bears?

by Sea Breeze in

a recent wt study was titled: “the resurrection reveals god’s love, wisdom and patience.

apparently there was a lot of speculation on how those resurrected will be needing to be taught god’s ways in last weeks wt study.

does anyone know how the watchtower tries to weasel out of the "resurrection of damnation"?.

waton

Judgement No. 1

SB: In the talking snake story, all of mankind is adversely judged in absentia, is it not?

In evolution, (the process), any birth, death is a tool for finding the best way, to conform, to better use the laws of nature. Is not in that sense every demise a sacrificial death? a fait accompli?

The story of a repeat of life has its appeal, but where is the proof that it is true, has any substance?

The idea, that you are brought back to life just to be judged, condemned makes it even more unrealistic. imho