" jehovahs chariot is moving forward at blazing speed!"
is it not supposed to instantly change directions. left and right and backward, with those wheels within wheels at right or wrong angles? and having four driver's faces looking whereever each way? with all the changes, it is really more like jerking."
Posts by waton
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tidbits from recent C.O. visit
by nowwhat? in"all people in the world are currently considered enemies of god" gee i wonder where some poeple get the idea that we are an extremist organization.. " jehovahs chariot is moving forward at blazing speed!
" in what reality is contraction and downsizing moving forward?.
"it used to be that if a congregation reached 150 publishers we would split into 2 congregations now if we have 2 congs.
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waton
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"Cautious as serpents, Innocent as doves" ? How does this fit in with the moves against Russia??
by stuckinarut2 inwe know that jesus supposedly said at matthew 10:16.
"be cautious as serpents, yet innocent as doves".. so , with all the hype going on about russia, and the "personal" letter writing campaign the gb is making all witnesses be a part of, this scripture came to mind.. surely this action is the very opposite of being "cautious"!?
surely it is not being "innocent" as to world affairs and political activities?.
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waton
Doves? no, jw-wt-gb passenger pigeons bearing messages of protest to Putin, service time put in.
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4000 places of Abuse says the Australian Royal Commission on track to deliver its final report on Dec.15
by smiddy inaccording to an article in the herald sun tues.march 28 2017 ,australian children were abused in more than 4000 institutions new data by the child abuse royal commission has revealed.. male clergy were most commonly perpertrators of the abuse followed by teachers and residential care workers while boys aged 10-14 were the most common victims.. the arc started its 57th and final case study yesterday ,chair justice peter mcclellan confirmed that after four years the $500 million commission was on track to deliver its final report on december the 15th (2017).
"survivors have waited too long for an effective response to their suffering and the future protection of australian children must be given the highest priority "he said.. end of article..
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waton
If jw abusers/rapists , which were, we must assume, private individuals, with a small percentage of ms, elders, are lumped in with teachers, caregivers priests acting in professional capacities in institutions dedicated to the care of children,--- good luck trying to get attention of 1 in 4000.
One attack, of course, like the ones exposed is one too many. hopefully this massive exposure will really help to stop it.
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Latest elders meeting during circuit visit
by Saltheart Foamfollower infor those not aware:- during the circuit visit there is a meeting with elders &ministerial servants based on an outline.
the mss are dismissed then local matters (eg new elders, meeting attendance etc) are discussed.
recently there has also been a part of the outline just for elders - one year it was about stopping anyone dressing in a "gender blurring" way from going on the ministry.. the latest visit has a section of the outline for elders.
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waton
It puzzles me how a cult like the jws, with such a high control on sexuality****, (even habitual pornography viewing), (elders masturbating) are marked as reason for disciplinary action, and there is supposed to be that past disproportionate laxity in child rape prevention. ??
*** in some Catholic countries, you could not be elected to any office unless you could prove you had a record of extra marital liaisons, and have the clergy there to bless you.
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A religon of the women, by the men, for the men
by never a jw inmy wife and daughter organized some sort of tea party for the older sisters in the congregation.
here are the details:: .
2 happily married to believers who do the minimum to stay off the radar of congregation police, .
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waton
perhaps 20% of sisters within my horizon have shed their husbands*** one way or another, exjw or not. most give no sign of being "lonely" for horizontal companionship. They are the bad influence on sisters with laggard, fading, disfellowshipped( for apostasy) husbands to free themselves too,--from that burden or "danger to their spirituality"
***with very lucrative settlements, featherbedding.
The herd instinct, drive to conformity in the religion goes way beyond doctrinal lock stepping, it is hormone driven.*
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Latest elders meeting during circuit visit
by Saltheart Foamfollower infor those not aware:- during the circuit visit there is a meeting with elders &ministerial servants based on an outline.
the mss are dismissed then local matters (eg new elders, meeting attendance etc) are discussed.
recently there has also been a part of the outline just for elders - one year it was about stopping anyone dressing in a "gender blurring" way from going on the ministry.. the latest visit has a section of the outline for elders.
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waton
"-When an individual who has been accused-" " established or not "
It is the words "accused, not established," that might be the reason for the caution, and request for legal advice needed.Child rapists are often very crafty and patient in grooming their prey, and taken a few hours in case of such a move, would be well worth investing to get things right.
Crying "wolf" among sheep too often or as a false alarm will have it's consequences too.
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In the yearbooks, why 'lands' not 'countries'?
by LoveUniHateExams inwhy does watchtower say that the 'world-wide preaching work' occurs in x amount of lands, not countries?
well, i have a theory.
hear me out.
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waton
It might have come naturally, unintended, from a past leadership that had such a strong germanic roots-component, Knorr, Henschel , Franz, from the words: England, Ireland, Iceland, Deutschland, Netherland, Saar-- Poland, more primitive, back to the earth/rustic paradise, than the more advanced latin based words.
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Why did Satan tempt Eve with a talking snake when he could have materialised as another human to tempt her ?
by smiddy insince the angels that followed satan could take on human form and even have sex and bear offspring to females of earth why would satan not have used this avenue instead of talking through a snake .?
which really makes no common sense ?.
why wouldnt eve question how a snake could talk?
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waton
study buddy, welcome to the place where you can let your imagination loose, without dire consequences , like in the kh.
Note that the serpent in the story not only had human-like vocal capabilities, but understood the talk, even could refute the human thoughts expressed. That is magic, a fantasy, not latent capacities of communication that really existed, even in a walled garden .
Around that place, only God appeared to be a carnivore, because it was he who took the carrion Abel offered off his hand and saved it from going to the dump. so, no fear there except for depleting the vegetation by herbivores' unchecked proliferation from the missing predation.
As to the dispersing of the animals after the flood, if you were cooped up for 9 month in a stinking stall with a simpleton that believed that all life had to be killed by water covering Mount Everest, you would be running too.
Enjoy the banter here, stimulating ideas like yours', even if in left field, are always welcome. its fun to make fun of funny stories, like the one based on the one and only talking snake.
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A religon of the women, by the men, for the men
by never a jw inmy wife and daughter organized some sort of tea party for the older sisters in the congregation.
here are the details:: .
2 happily married to believers who do the minimum to stay off the radar of congregation police, .
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waton
"--man wakes up, man tries awakening female, female talks to the elders, male gets disfellowshipped, male and female divorce"
which boils down to the female really bonded to the wt more than the life-giving / life- passing family arrangement. There was a name in the bible for arrangements like that.
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Watchtower & Guns
by freemindfade inapparently jehalapeno isn't a 2nd amendment supporter either.... .
july 17 questions from readers.... the way this part is worded screams cult to me, i was quite amused.. how a christian chooses to protect himself, his family, or his possessions is, of course, largely a personal matter, as is his choice of employment.. geee!
thanks watchtower for allowing me to "largely chose my own employment" you are a generous cult lol.
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waton
"largely a personal matter"
Is there not survival drills in place where group overseers (sargents) will corrall the assigned jws into bunkers? bonkers? is that a personal matter then"