i've recently been at an assembly here in romania and there was an announced they were running a 10,000 euro deficit and urging all attendees to donate more money besides the already 5k has was donated during that day.
i really don't understand these things.
it's their own assembly hall.
I doubt it RO. It's very hard to prove since there are only verbal announcements and it would be very easy to demonstrate on paper that the assembly is indeed in deficit. It's how they justify to themselves they are not lying.
There is nothing preventing a charity from having income greater than expenses, indeed it's a pretty sensible fiscal policy.
i thought i'd share this one with the group.
many years ago, my mom was disfellowshipped.
then, my sister passed away in a car accident, she was fairly young, as she was in her early 20s.
Outrageous. How long ago was this?
the sky is so dark here in the south of the uk.
could be armageddon starting.. or then it could be dust particles in the atmosphere..
Yes - sorry Xant, I don't mean to be flippant about those that are affected and the deaths are tragic however I have a friend in Belfast atm and he says it's actually that serious there, just like a bad storm. The thing is it's hyped up as some kind of show stopping weather event but compared to the devastation that the proper hurricanes have brought to the Caribbean and southern US or the forest fires in California, this will have far less long term impact for the vast majority of people.
I am in the south east of the UK and there is hardly a strong wind, just a lovely red tinged deep cloud earlier.
the sky is so dark here in the south of the uk.
could be armageddon starting.. or then it could be dust particles in the atmosphere..
Not withstanding the tragic deaths in Ireland, it is a bit like this overall...
i've recently been at an assembly here in romania and there was an announced they were running a 10,000 euro deficit and urging all attendees to donate more money besides the already 5k has was donated during that day.
i really don't understand these things.
it's their own assembly hall.
£120,000 contributions, £94,000 expenses and depreciation of £134,000. Seems like a loss. So much for assemblies generating huge income for Watchtower.
Could be but there is alot hidden in there such as "costs of generating voluntary income" - approx £134k - which is not part of the running costs. What the hell is this? I think it's down elsewhere as "support costs" that was carried over from the previous year. Could be costs of plant perhaps? I am sure a forensic accountant could work it out. Either way you can bet your life the dubs are paying over the odds.
Take a look the Surrey Assembly Hall - flagship money maker.
http://apps.charitycommission.gov.uk/Accounts/Ends09/0001090209_AC_20160831_E_C.PDF
It continues to generate about twice as much as it spends.
i've recently been at an assembly here in romania and there was an announced they were running a 10,000 euro deficit and urging all attendees to donate more money besides the already 5k has was donated during that day.
i really don't understand these things.
it's their own assembly hall.
cookie/are you serious - you've said some truths there. My father was responsible for circuit funds and he says exactly the same thing. It's not about there being some scandal of the halls making a profit, it's the way that the dubs are conned into thinking there is a deficit. If the announcement was transparent then there would be a lot less giving at the assembly.
why in the hell would we (men) have one less rib...help me folks the adam and eve story has screwed up my thinking...
Er... no... men and women have the same number of ribs.
i've recently been at an assembly here in romania and there was an announced they were running a 10,000 euro deficit and urging all attendees to donate more money besides the already 5k has was donated during that day.
i really don't understand these things.
it's their own assembly hall.
Given that in the UK all the assembly hall accounts are available on line through the charity commission and the scam is obvious it should surprise me that more have not woken up to this. The reality is of course that individuals don't care even when it's pointed out. They are just happy the money can go to the branch.
up until the very end, my mother refused blood.
it didn't matter if it was a blurred line or not, the bible says "no blood"!
i wonder if she was in the minority, in her thinking.
Well, the majority of people that leave JW is because they got angry at something or they rather be doing something else. Later on they look for ways and examine the answers after they already decided for themselves. But there are also those that are curious about what the apostates are thinking.
I must have forgot to pass my reasons by you then.
And the JW minority that winds up accepting BT is out of fear -they don't want to die even if they also believe in the FDS, others that also make up that minority when faced with death rationalize and don't believe the gb is correct on this one. The rest of JW will face death putting faith in the gb decision.
Agreed. I don't see how any of this, which I already said most people, for or against the JW policy, would agree with changes the validity of the proposition that most Witnesses would change their view of what is acceptable and not acceptable on the whim of the GB and not their own conscience. I think you probably agree with this as well.
up until the very end, my mother refused blood.
it didn't matter if it was a blurred line or not, the bible says "no blood"!
i wonder if she was in the minority, in her thinking.
If a JW believes that the gb are only a bunch of men dictating policy as you say, then why should he continue to be a JW?
Why indeed FM....? But we were all there weren't we? We all believed that the GB were the conduit but then we started allowing ourselves to investigate the answers to the questions we had glossed over for so long.
That's what this site is about - helping those who have questions examine the answers.
