Just so I am clear, do the society want to reduce the cost of a hall by 20% or to 20% of the current build cost? The latter is a massive ask.
konceptual99
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New Kindumb Halls in a neighborhood near you
by suavojr innew kindumb halls in a neighborhood near you.
notes and highlights from todays meeting.
opening statement about this meeting being a historic event, over 100k elders under the us branch together live from nyc..
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Counting service time in a creative way
by nevaagain incouting time and, how to count time while doing as little service as possible is often a hot topic around witnesses.
i even overheard pioneers discussing about it.
they call it "creative time counting" (i translated that phrase from a different language so bear with me ;-).
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konceptual99
I just make up a figure and put it down. That saves even having to do anything. To be fair I do turn up at one meeting for FS a month or so just to keep the elders off my back. I then do some "calls". At my house.
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The Opal Ring: a story based on the true life of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Julia Orwell init's finally finished!
it's a fictional story about an old jw.
it is very long, about 7000 words.. the opal ring.
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konceptual99
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The intcal13 dataset: The best evidence I know of for C14 dating.
by bohm incarbon 14 dating is often dismissed as relying on the assumption the c14/c12 ratio in the past has been comparable to the present, however what is rarely acknowledged is this assumption can be checked.
the way the assumption is checked is by finding a system which admits dating independent of c14.
popular choices are dendrochronology, where tree-rings are counted and by matching variation in tree-ring width across trees it is possible to build a chronology stretching back 12000 years, or varvas, where yearly variations in sediment deposits in lakes admit chronologies to be build stretching back tens of thousands of years.
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konceptual99
Bohm - even some very intelligent dubs I know are completely dismissive of c14 science. They could not care less about the verification processes. As you have pointed out the publications don't even address this side of things so many dubs have zero knowledge of it. I was the same when I was mentally in.
The fact that the WTS have hardly mentioned many aspects of science fir years such as C14, common ancestry and other areas where the current evidence is overwhelming says it all to me.
They want us to accept ever changing new light but not consider how far science has come in 30 years.
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Is Jehova's Trumpet for real?
by StarTrekAngel inbecause regardless of having seen a lot of bad things, if true, some of the things i read there have reached new thresholds of bs.
who are these people?
i posted some comments there because i was sincerely confused as to the nature of their article.. http://jehovahstrumpet.com/brother-survives-nazi-persecution-disfellowshiped-for-smoking/.
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konceptual99
JT is really the Brass Eye of the anti JW world.
Satire so ridiculous yet it could be true.
Love it.
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Is Jehova's Trumpet for real?
by StarTrekAngel inbecause regardless of having seen a lot of bad things, if true, some of the things i read there have reached new thresholds of bs.
who are these people?
i posted some comments there because i was sincerely confused as to the nature of their article.. http://jehovahstrumpet.com/brother-survives-nazi-persecution-disfellowshiped-for-smoking/.
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konceptual99
For fecks sake.... Not you as well!
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/84170003/family-mourns-because-baby-lives-wtf#/84440003
Keep up ;-)
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The intcal13 dataset: The best evidence I know of for C14 dating.
by bohm incarbon 14 dating is often dismissed as relying on the assumption the c14/c12 ratio in the past has been comparable to the present, however what is rarely acknowledged is this assumption can be checked.
the way the assumption is checked is by finding a system which admits dating independent of c14.
popular choices are dendrochronology, where tree-rings are counted and by matching variation in tree-ring width across trees it is possible to build a chronology stretching back 12000 years, or varvas, where yearly variations in sediment deposits in lakes admit chronologies to be build stretching back tens of thousands of years.
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konceptual99
no... der brain - it's a slightly unpc, childish way of referring to someone of below average intelligence.
Think schools kids taking the mickey out of each other.
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The intcal13 dataset: The best evidence I know of for C14 dating.
by bohm incarbon 14 dating is often dismissed as relying on the assumption the c14/c12 ratio in the past has been comparable to the present, however what is rarely acknowledged is this assumption can be checked.
the way the assumption is checked is by finding a system which admits dating independent of c14.
popular choices are dendrochronology, where tree-rings are counted and by matching variation in tree-ring width across trees it is possible to build a chronology stretching back 12000 years, or varvas, where yearly variations in sediment deposits in lakes admit chronologies to be build stretching back tens of thousands of years.
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konceptual99
Great work. You have forgotten though that the C14 ratios were all mucked up cos of the flood. Der brain. -
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Family MOURNS because baby LIVES? WTF!!!!
by Glitchy ini was researching all things un related to jws when i came across this website: "jehovah's trumpet" http://jehovahstrumpet.com/.
i read an article about a jw who found out the watchtower had joined the un.
she left the org and now her daughter is shunning her while boasting about it!
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konceptual99
Erm...
i suggest looking up the word "satire".
Unless your post is even more ironic and I've missed your joke.
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Jehovah's Witnesses requesting financial transparency in Spain
by JHK intwo jehovah's witnesses requesting financial transparency in spain branch.
one picture in the assembly hall and another on the bridge.. .
http://johnhenrykurtz.blogspot.com.es/2015/01/transparencia-financiera-llegara-antes.html.
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konceptual99
@konceptual i cannot comment on the situation and example you refer to simply because i am not familiar with that situation/location. As far as elders are concerned they are responsible for their congregation and should trust the brothers at the branch and international offices, just like all the other JW's should trust the brothers.
within JW ranks there is not a real movement of people who think there is any reason to distrust the organisation. things are going fine as far as the majority is concerned.Come on @insidetheKH - you don't get off that easily.
You are quite happy to spout off generalities about what the majority do or don't think but are not prepared to look at the principles involved. It's fine to trust and, once again, I agree that for most things are going fine. That does not mean that you can simply brush away any debate with a simple claim that no one who actually goes to the meetings really cares therefore it's just the irrelevant bleatings of a few disaffected malcontents.
There are fundamental points about the potential abuse of scriptural doctrines around Jehovah's headship arrangement, organisational structure and the deference shown to the hierarchy when this is used to steamroller whatever financial arrangements HQ sees fit. There are potential legal ramifications to those lower down who carry ever more responsibility on a personal level yet have little real power to manage their exposure due to having to listen to mother. For many of them the implications of the WTS's slippery shouldered tactics are completely lost on them and they are simply ignorant of the risks.
Without wishing to draw too many emotive parallels, the events this week marking the liberation of camps in Europe should provide some cause for reflection on the fact that just because the majority are not bothered by the actions of their trusted leaders it does not mean all is well or that any criticism is diminished.