Posts by konceptual99

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JAN 2015 Awake - Yet More Fallacies and Disingenuous Statements re Evolution/Creation
by konceptual99 in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
so the new awake is up.. first question..... "how did life begin?.

how would you complete the following sentance?.

life is the result of..... a. evolution.
konceptual99

So the new Awake is up.

First question....

"How Did Life Begin?

How would you complete the following sentance?

LIFE IS THE RESULT OF....

A. EVOLUTION

B. CREATION"

err.... neither.

Apparently the Bible is not anti-science....

"For example, the Bible does not support creationism. It does not state that the earth was created in six literal 24-hour days"

err.... yet another repetition of the mantra that JWs are not creationists. Despite believing in creation.

What is it with these people? Everytime they have a chance to answer the critics, respond to the repeated exposures of disingenuous statements they jsut repeat it again. Why can they not be open, transparent? Admit they are OLD EARTH creationists? Be clear that evolution has nothing to do with the origin of life? Be clear that they do accept that a certain amount of evolution has, and continues to, happen?

Instead we get yet another dismal treatment of the subject. I think they realised a long time ago that they will never convince anyone who can see past the smokescreen and so they just use enough emotion and pseudo-science to appeal to the gullible and those too indoctrinated to see the light.
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Evidence Regarding the Evolution of Cetaceans - Whales etc
by cofty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this excellent little video sumamrises some of the evidence for the evolutionary history of cetaceans.. if focuses on comparative anatomy, embryology, fossils and dna.. .... .

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konceptual99

Evolution does not say you keep getting better and better. We are not more intelligent than we were 500 years ago. We are not naturally more healthy. Our technological accomplishments and longevity are products of a better understanding of the world around us through scientific advancement.

One facet of evolution does predict that organisims that are better suited to the environment they live in are more likely to dominate over time but that is not guarenteed. That is not the same as saying we will all keep getting better and better.
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The REAL purpose of the new 1914 explanation video...
by Calebs Airplane in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
when a dub starts to question an elder about this doctrine (at the kh, field circus or wherever), the elder will only need to utter these words: "just watch the video".... .

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konceptual99

Nice one OTWO. Coincinentally I watched Quadrophenia a couple of days ago as it was on TV. I love watching that film and spotting all the local landmarks in Brighton.
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Evidence Regarding the Evolution of Cetaceans - Whales etc
by cofty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
this excellent little video sumamrises some of the evidence for the evolutionary history of cetaceans.. if focuses on comparative anatomy, embryology, fossils and dna.. .... .

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konceptual99

Excellent video. I also looked at the website and facebook page. I have not seen anything that suggests some kind of agenda other than the presentation of key facts in a straight-forward manner. I don't see any intellectual dishonesty which is far from the case when considering the literature of the WTS regarding their interpretation of the development of life.
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a young 14 year old girl was disfellowshipped in my former congregation last week
by alexandre in
1. watchtower
2. bible
a baptized girl from my former cong.

was expelled out because she participated in more than one porn videos with classmates in the school and theses videos became public.

she is 14 years old and grew up as witnesses.but anybody knows she had many boyfriends and she-, but that thing was unbelievable!
konceptual99

It is clear to me that the facts of the case are not available to any of us. We have no idea of the circumstances so it adds little to speculate over what the elders may or may not have seen, the nature and context of the videos or what involvement the secular authorities may have.

I agree with the comments on what on earth is a young girl doing gettting baptised but they are. I would like to think that the elders held off any JC until the girl had been supported and counselled by the relevant authorities however would I bet on it? Not on your life.

It might be possible for a Witness to try provide some mitigation for the elders around "repeated offences" or a manifestation of "godly repentance" but the reality is that the elders should be advised to back off and let the authorities do their work. The reality is however that they feel they have to do something and so wade in with their size 11s...
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Taking on Jehovah's Witnesses fake Child Safeguarding Policy in the UK
by Watchtower-Free in
1. watchtower
2. child-abuse
found this on youtube.

this is louise goode .

shes also on facebook.
konceptual99

The Charities Commission will do little against the WTS unless unless it could be provem that systematic abuse has been wilfully covered up. Whatever the feelings of ones here or the numerous cases down on public record there is sadly no where near enough evidence to support such claims IMHO. The best hope is that somehow the levels of public awareness are raised very high and it becomes a matter of political discussion at high level, i.e. ministerial.
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"Not Doubting at All . . . "
by Terry in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
what happens when you have doubts?.

1. you ask questions and demand answers.

2. you investigate.
konceptual99

Thanks for the thread Terry. A thought provoking alternative to dub TV.
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Is the AGM today?
by hamsterbait in
1. jw
2. friends
anybody going or who can give us the noolite hot from the gb a$$?.

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konceptual99

I lifted this from J W Talk ( all diehard dubs )

Not all ;-)
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How Some Pioneers Count Their Time
by God_Delusion in
1. jw
2. experiences
hello guys & gals,.

i've just written an article on my experience relating to jehovah's witness pioneers and their amazing hours counting abilities, which let's face it, can be superhuman.. i am sure you've got some fantastic stories to tell about how you used to count your time in the field ministry.

maybe you know of other pioneers that were quite adventurous in the hours counting.
konceptual99

Our current CO - Philip Rose - will knock a door in the close vacinity of the FS location as quickly as possible after leaving the group to start his time.
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TV.JW.Org - WTF is Wrong With This Guy? - CAPTION THEM
by passwordprotected in
1. jw
2. friends
i've heard about his bombastic, overly patronising, cartoon-ish delivery before, but i'd never actually seen it...until now.

and i should add, this religion bears little to no relation to the one i left 6 years ago.. .

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konceptual99

I see your point and not looked at it from that perspective. Just saying that 8 weeks to design, procure and build a studio is pretty good going.