Kim Silvio (in response to your "It’s comments like these from Mark that make me uncomfortable" comment), (and Newly Enlightened in response to your comment to me), first, when there are too many town criers, no one knows who to listen to, and what's relevant, especially when irrelevant points are being brought up and treated like they're a big deal. Everything can't be a big deal. Everyone can't be a big deal. Too many voices and it all becomes white noise. Edit to add that I get it that it's not Marks place, nor really anyone's place to say who's voice is relevant, and that it's up to those who are listening. But I also get that it can be frustrating when you are trying to make a big point and others are creating distractions pointing out irrelevant matters.
It seems to me, viewing from the outside, that the competition between activists goes both ways. There has definitely been mudslinging from all sides. None of these parties are innocent. Lloyd definitely crashed and burned, showed his true colors, and Kim, Mikey, and all the other activists who he wronged could rightfully bask in the glow of his fiery demise. But the way this whole Marko, CSA allegation thing was handled... That's unethical. Don't go making, or facilitating egregious rumors, until they are proven fact, or at the very least, warrants are issued, or charges are filed. 2 wrongs don't make a right. Going out of their way to make Lloyd look even worse than he already made himself just makes everyone participating look pathetically vengeful. I'm still waiting for all that evidence many were spouting about and then covering their butts with "just wait, it'll come out"...
As far as Mark O goes, as I said, thank you for the clarification. I dont know him, and can only see the character he puts forward, which appears to be genuine and a seeker of truth and justice. I'll just have to take your word, and Kim and Mikeys word, for how you all veiw his character, under advisement, moving forward. For whatever that's worth. In reality, how I feel about all this, any of you, Lloyd, and the exjw community, is pretty irrelevant. But then again, in the grand scheme of things, and in my world, it's all pretty irrelevant. Just a time killer today. Time to go back to my real world. I hope you all get settled back into a place where you are happy and comfortable.