Posts by jwleaks

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Demoted from elder to MS, anybody ever heard of this?

by Naoscillator in

so a friend in a nearby hall told me their co came through, and in a hellish week of long meetings and inquisition overhauled the boe.

only one remains as elder, three were re-appointed as ms, and one, the cobe was deleted entirely.. two new elders were brought in as new secretary and cobe / watchtower conductor, respectively, and introduced to the congregation from the platform on sunday immediately following his second talk.

he reminded everybody of the authority he has and then named the new appointees.

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Splash - The scriptural difference between an elder and MS is that the elder must be 'qualified to teach'.

Good point, but therein lies the conundrum for the JWs. Is an elder 'qualified to teach' before he is appointed as an elder or only after he is appointed as an elder?

If it is before he is appointed as an elder then he was indeed 'qualified to teach' as a ministerial servant. But if it is only after he is appointed as an elder then he should not have been appointed as an elder as he was not 'qualified to teach'.

This was the whole argument of Paul in Romans 4:9-12.

On the other hand, the Bible lists practices and personal habits that prevent someone from being appointed as an elder or ministerial servant. Many of these are disfellowshipping offences. If a brother does not qualify then is it reasonable to conclude that his practices and personal habits disqualified him?

Of course, in a man-made religion under the control of a corporation none of this matters.

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Huge story unfolding at Warwick

by Crazyguy in

its been mentioned before that warwick is a toxic dump and now the jw's are suing a former owner for compensation.

well this is huge on so many levels.

one they new it was contaminated back a few years ago so why move your headquarters there?

jwleaks

JW Leaks published this 4 page letter back in June 2012:

Letter on illegal toxic chemical dumping at Watchtower Farms

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If you were told today you would die next week, would you be happy and fine with that?

by EndofMysteries in

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i don't know how so many who seem to be certain this life is it after being jw's seem to happily accept it and be fine with it.

i am living and trying to live as if this is it.

i want there to be a future life/afterlife, something, but i see how fast life comes and goes and even if i'm living it to the fullest, there is no peace for me with the thought this may be it.

jwleaks

When I read the post title for some reason this was the first thing that entered my mind...

Warning NSFW - contains titties. I leave it to the mods.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI2rf_u3-Dk

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What kind of errors in the Bible?

by TheWonderofYou in

the new testament specialist daniel wallace notes that although there are about 300,000 individual variations of the text of the new testament, this number is very misleading.

most of the differences are completely inconsequential--spelling errors, inverted phrases and the like.

a side by side comparison between the two main text families (the majority text and the modern critical text) shows agreement a full 98% of the time.[18].

jwleaks

50,000 errors in the Bible. Quote from Awake! magazine September 8, 1957 - PDF link

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Bethelite"s wife storms out of headquarters and leaves him...she was forced into Bethel. My story begins....

by Witness 007 in

we were all in our 20's the 1990's pioneers who still hoped the 1914 generation was for real.

jenny {names changed} loved peter who was younger then me and very handsome.

he wanted to go to bethel since he was a kid.

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Bethel laundry. No tight pants and spanx there.

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How many Atheist organizations or irreligious organizations have been accused of the covering up child abuse?

by jwleaks in

i don't know of any but would like some references if anyone does.

of course not all atheists or irreligious people need to belong to an organization.. studies on the demographics of atheism have concluded that self-identified atheists comprise anywhere from 2% to 8% of the world's population, whereas irreligious individuals represent a further 10% to 20%.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/demographics_of_atheism.

jw leaks .

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Phizzy - What would it prove if you could find an Atheist/irreligious Organization that had covered up Child Abuse ?
Of course , I do not think you have phrased the Thread Title well.
There are very few, if any Atheist Organizations, or Organizations that totally exclude the religious.
What exactly are you trying to get at ?
What is the point of this Thread ?

Phizzy, the information is being collected, including any feedback they can get, for someone who plans to present it to the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission. The subject of the thread title is "atheist organizations" and "irreligious organizations". The key points in the title is "have been accused of the covering up" of child abuse.

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How many Atheist organizations or irreligious organizations have been accused of the covering up child abuse?

by jwleaks in

i don't know of any but would like some references if anyone does.

of course not all atheists or irreligious people need to belong to an organization.. studies on the demographics of atheism have concluded that self-identified atheists comprise anywhere from 2% to 8% of the world's population, whereas irreligious individuals represent a further 10% to 20%.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/demographics_of_atheism.

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disposable hero of hypocrisy - Sorry for the big paste, but this is from Wikipedia...

disposable - Thanks for the Wiki link. I would imagine it is a safe bet that none of these organizations would have policies that come anywhere near the JW's in relation to the handling of child molestation within their group, let alone the "two witness" rule.

cofty - What is an "atheist organisation"?

cofty - The OP was something that I was asked recently. My guess was that an "atheist organisation" would have at least be registered under a law as a legal entity and at the least have an Articles of Association.

ruby456 - thanks for the UN cover up link. I have just gone through the Wikileaks documents.

CalebInFloroda - children generally do not join atheist organizations

CalebInFloroda - good point.

nicolaou - I myself have found the question challenging the more I go into it which is why I included by "atheist" and "irreligious" in the title and op. Of course child abuse would not stop if there was no religion but the vast majority occurs within religion, with the abuser claiming religious affiliation. All points aside, it's not the abuser that was the subject but rather the propensity of the organization to cover up.

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Hello Everyone

by MarieK in

i hope everyone is having a good saturday.

i've visited this many times in the past month or so, joined yesterday and finally got the nerve to post!

needless to say, i'm super nervous, being new to this whole experience.

jwleaks

Welcome to the forum Marie.

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Why Is This New Batch of Governing Body Members So Stupid?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well there are lots of reason for sure, denial, delusion, wishful thinking, ego maniac, infantile understanding of ancient writings, satanophobia, xenophobia, out of touch with reality, limited choices scrapping the bottom of the barrel,and many more.. listen to this ted talk and see if you can pick out something that helps explain why these guys are such ass holes:.

organizations are often run according to the superchicken model, where the value is placed on star employees who outperform others.

and yet, this isnt what drives the most high-achieving teams.

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sir82 - Old timers like ... Barry ... at least were dignified and gave the appearance of competence.

Lloyd Barry was a fraud and a sinner against the holy spirit, in the same manner that Geoffrey Jackson is a fraud and a sinner against the holy spirit. Both commenced taking the emblems for the Lord's Evening Meal on Nisan 13 and not Nisan 14 and therefore appointed themselves as holy ones and saints.

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GB Spirit directed writing - October 2015 Awake

by Listener in

the awake oct 2015 is now up on jw org.. one article talks about young adults returning to their parents home and tries to give them some advice.. one of the highlighted comments are these magical words.

<<remember, more important than what you do is becoming proficient at what you do.>>.

i don't see how it's more important to become more proficient in that window washing job than working towards a more interesting and better paying job.