Posts by TheWonderofYou

Pooohhh, i know its a shame but i must admit that I cant answer one question without an aid, somethings I never heard of before. Even now after nealry 30 years have passed since i left

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Largest amount of refugees since WW2 in Europe

by Powermetal4ever in

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so i had a discussion with my mother about this, and she claims that because of this that: "we are surely living in the last days right now" while i must admit myself that the situation seem chaotic, i don't want to believe that it is the last days.

so question is, how do i face an opinion like that?

TheWonderofYou

A speaker of foreign minister of Saudi Arabia officially protested against the negative media reports, they integrated 100.000 syrians as citizens but not as refugees with right for education health care and employment .

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/12/saudi-arabia-says-reports-of-its-syrian-refugee-response-false-and-misleading

Why dont these syrians tell more.

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Guardians Of Doctrine (GOD) and the Governing Body

by punkofnice in

i don't know if gb member g jackson really meant the gb were 'god', with his 'guardians of doctrine' comment at the arc.

it's nice and conspiracy to think so, i suppose.

i honestly don't know.

TheWonderofYou

It does appeal to our lust for learing, sensations and new stories, eerm did we really catch up his new theocratic term GOD, did we really talk so long about some nonsense, does he laugh now?

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OSCE (The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe

by Paul Bonanno in

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i have noticed that the jws are participating in meetings organized by the osce.

they are registered or participate under the "european association of jehovah's christian witnesses".

one point highlighted in this organization is tolerance.

TheWonderofYou

Umbertoeco

Good ideas, noticed.

The location of the European NGO should be in Europe, and it should mainly address european situation within cult.

And of course, yes! COOPERATION with an other NGO, perhaps tolerant church or minority church ..that has better internal procedures and treats members better.

or we could write to OSCE and ask them to propose us a cooperation partner.

in my opionion to stand up alone as former ones, could bring us the outsider image of ...the revengers, the eternal ex'es or anti-freedom of cult workers, although we would like to concentrate only on one or two main issues about procedures and so start an avalanche to investigste later more procedures and lately it should result in best practice in handling of church members who are not conform or are suppressed after being assaulted in all minor captive religions.

So we should really not give the impression to zealously fight against freedom of belief of minor groups, but we only are concerned much about our fsmily mrmbers and friends lost in the cult to whom is forbidden to contact us. And we would ask the OSCE to agree to a research project about practice regarding church discipline in Europe, compared with discipline in other associations, instituions or in contracts.what are the effects snd costs for public for bad discipline or

Urging children to attend ethic lessions would be against their personal free choice of belief, thus not practicable.

So I will think about what kind of cooperation with OSCE,

Your proposals are welcomed.

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OSCE (The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe

by Paul Bonanno in

jw
friends

i have noticed that the jws are participating in meetings organized by the osce.

they are registered or participate under the "european association of jehovah's christian witnesses".

one point highlighted in this organization is tolerance.

TheWonderofYou

Bonnano - FECRIS

This anti-cult orh has no good reputation , so far i know at Helsinki counsel., ..separates children from parents to de-mindcontrol them in brutal radical ways.

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OSCE (The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe

by Paul Bonanno in

jw
friends

i have noticed that the jws are participating in meetings organized by the osce.

they are registered or participate under the "european association of jehovah's christian witnesses".

one point highlighted in this organization is tolerance.

TheWonderofYou

.. i did'nt notice it at all when i uploaded, the text above about the situation in turkmenistan reads actually. ..

"To restore the civil and political rights oj JW" (...? political?)

when one human right attorney depended on a second one, and that spoke with diplomacy you should of course receive all rights of a usual citizen, thats the minimum

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OSCE (The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe

by Paul Bonanno in

jw
friends

i have noticed that the jws are participating in meetings organized by the osce.

they are registered or participate under the "european association of jehovah's christian witnesses".

one point highlighted in this organization is tolerance.

TheWonderofYou

Background info - Which statements do JW give to the OSCE- Human Dimension Implemenations Meetings:

Here a written statement by the Jehovahs witnesses about the situation in Russia concering freedom of belief, assembly of 2014 ( acknowledge as HDIM.NGO / 0352 /14 / EN 1. October 2014 )

http://www.osce.org/odihr/124739

http://www.osce.org/home/71569

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Guidlines are co-ordinated with other Religions:
Recognition of Religious or Belief Communities.

http://www.osce.org/odihr/13993

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Hate crimes are reported

http://hatecrime.osce.org/what-hate-crime/bias-against-christians-and-members-other-religions

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US mission to OSCE

http://www.osce.org/odihr/27214?download=true

US department of state

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/171755.pdf

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OSCE (The Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe

by Paul Bonanno in

jw
friends

i have noticed that the jws are participating in meetings organized by the osce.

they are registered or participate under the "european association of jehovah's christian witnesses".

one point highlighted in this organization is tolerance.

TheWonderofYou

Vidiot17 hours ago - The WTS "knows a guy who knows a guy"... who happens to be the "Wild Beast".

Obvioulsy the attorneys of the EAJW are not in danger under the protection of the umbrella of OSCE, it as really secure and peaceful place, onlty if the UN-diplomates would appear it would be a little unconvinient there in the workshops and on the roundtables, and the image of the "wild beast" must have another significance.

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Guardians Of Doctrine (GOD) and the Governing Body

by punkofnice in

i don't know if gb member g jackson really meant the gb were 'god', with his 'guardians of doctrine' comment at the arc.

it's nice and conspiracy to think so, i suppose.

i honestly don't know.

TheWonderofYou

I associate the term "guardian" with .... "guardian angel" ...'messenger" and that remindes of

1919: The seven angels, or "messengers", of Revelation chapters 1 and 2 are identified "for the first time in the history of the church" as St Paul, St John, Arius,Peter Waldo, John Wycliffe, Martin Luther and Charles Taze Russell.[131] "The Table of the Great King,", The Watchtower, April 1, 1919, as cited by James Penton, Apocalypse Delayed, pg 181

Watch Tower literature has suggested such enlightenment results from the application of reason and study,[17] the guidance of holy spirit, and direction from Jesus Christ and angels.[18] Rutherford spoke of spiritual "lightning flashes in the temple",[19] the Society claims its doctrine of the "great crowd" and "other sheep" were "revealed" to "God’s earthly servants" in 1935,[20][21] and Witness literature has also described sudden changes in doctrines as "flashes of light" given by God through his holy spirit.[22] A 1930 publication claimed God used "invisible deputies" and "invisible angels" to pass his "messages" to The Watchtower,[23][24] although The Watchtower told Witnesses it was not necessary for them to understand how this took place.[25] A 1973 policy change to disfellowship tobacco users was explained as a decision that "Jehovah has brought to the attention of his 'holy' people".[26#

Thanks go to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_Jehovah%27s_Witnesses_doctrine

Perhaps the Governing body thinks that not St. Paul, St. John, Arius , Peter Waldo, John Wicliffe, Luther, Russel, but that the real messenger are those Governing Body member that saw "the generation" or 1914/1919, who knows?

It could be further that the Governing body members = Watchtower Directors of 1919 are the real messengers,

or it could be that 7 succeeding Watchttower directors: Conley, Russel, Rutherford, Knorr, Franz, Henschel, Adams are the messengers This would not include the current GB members though, who would be only agents of Adams.