Hey Gratulation for your humour. I like that
TheWonderofYou
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Book cover for Kingdom Maladies
by punkofnice inrighto poppickers.
as some of you know, i have been putting together a book of interviews and humour.
it is designed (i hope), soften the blow for those inside the wbt$ who want to escape and also prove to those that have left that they are not alone.. anyway.
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Director of Bloodless Medicine and Surgery at Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh Accused of Illegally Hunting Lion
by AudeSapere inhttp://news.yahoo.com/zimbabwe-accuses-2nd-american-illegally-hunting-lion-060415307.html#.
harare, zimbabwe (ap) zimbabwe has accused a pennsylvania doctor of illegally killing a lion in april, as it seeks to extradite a minnesota dentist who killed a well-known lion named cecil in july.. jan casimir seski of murrysville, pennsylvania, shot the lion with a bow and arrow near hwange national park, without approval and on land where it was not allowed, said zimbabwe's national parks and wildlife management authority.. landowner headman sibanda was arrested and is assisting police, it said.. seski, a gynecological oncologist who directs the center for bloodless medicine and surgery at allegheny general hospital in pittsburgh, is a big-game hunter according to safari outfitters and bow-hunting sites.
kill shots on the sites identify "dr. jan seski" as the man standing next to slain animals including elephants, a hippo, an ostrich and antelopes such as an impala, a kudu, and a nyala.. seski did not respond to messages left by the associated press at his home and with an answering service for his medical practice.
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TheWonderofYou
Pittsburgh Post Gazette, 20th Aug 2012
Dr Seski speaks in the story making the case for bloodless surgery about the hemodilution technique pioneered by him and others in 1977, prefered by Jehovahs witnesses.
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Director of Bloodless Medicine and Surgery at Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh Accused of Illegally Hunting Lion
by AudeSapere inhttp://news.yahoo.com/zimbabwe-accuses-2nd-american-illegally-hunting-lion-060415307.html#.
harare, zimbabwe (ap) zimbabwe has accused a pennsylvania doctor of illegally killing a lion in april, as it seeks to extradite a minnesota dentist who killed a well-known lion named cecil in july.. jan casimir seski of murrysville, pennsylvania, shot the lion with a bow and arrow near hwange national park, without approval and on land where it was not allowed, said zimbabwe's national parks and wildlife management authority.. landowner headman sibanda was arrested and is assisting police, it said.. seski, a gynecological oncologist who directs the center for bloodless medicine and surgery at allegheny general hospital in pittsburgh, is a big-game hunter according to safari outfitters and bow-hunting sites.
kill shots on the sites identify "dr. jan seski" as the man standing next to slain animals including elephants, a hippo, an ostrich and antelopes such as an impala, a kudu, and a nyala.. seski did not respond to messages left by the associated press at his home and with an answering service for his medical practice.
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TheWonderofYou
Jan Seski's webpage says he was a pioneer and leader in the development of bloodless surgery for JW, whose religion bars them receiving blood transfusion. Gratulation for his pioneer spirit as hunter and minister for JW. Many witnesses financed his property, which he uses as hunting grounds. What a game for gynaecological oncologist.
Source: 1st story at triblive.com about dr jan seski
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For those of you "not baptised" and too afraid to front the RC. WT is hoping you won't come forward.
by umbertoecho inhello to those following what is going in australia with our royal commission.. i want to let all those abused, neglected, shunned and blamed that i understand why you may not front the rc.
the wtbts is hoping you will consider yourself an invalid complainant, because you are not or were not.....baptised.
if you were abused at a young age and you told on your dad or the bad man that did it.......you would have been taken aside by the overseer and read scriptures about lying and being immoral; even if you didn't know what that word meant.
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TheWonderofYou
Your story really deeply touches my heart.
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How much was Christ's ransom sacrifice? Equal to Adam?
by jonathan dough inhow much was the ransom?
gods justice did not require an exact equivalent man-for-man sacrifice between the first adam and jesus, the second adam.
gods gift required more.
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TheWonderofYou
@CalebInFloroda,
I am interested in learning ..thats everything. If my comments are useful to strenghten your faith I would be honoured, although my knowledge is about is little compared to you. Im mainly fascinated about the fact how much material is available even in free googlebooks and theological essays in internet. And i like to share a perhaps useful explanation of a certain word and apprecitate your jewish view.
I think that I am implanted in the jewish olivetree, how this works together with covenant-theology is a unsolved mystery.ad sacrifice
Were the animal and other sacrifices than social and spiritual communion.( korban = coming close to God).Is it true that the sacrivices according to Leviticus "demonstrated" the might of the sin, by putting the guilt on stage the guilt had consequence for the representative medium, so that the wrongdoer was released of the guilt. Than the victim/sacrifcie was no price in anyway that was to be paid ("like in the corresponding ransom idea) but a medium to make aware of the reality of sin.
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How much was Christ's ransom sacrifice? Equal to Adam?
by jonathan dough inhow much was the ransom?
gods justice did not require an exact equivalent man-for-man sacrifice between the first adam and jesus, the second adam.
gods gift required more.
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TheWonderofYou
@CalebinFloroda
I grew up with catolic shool education, with 16 I was baptized as JW, about 24 I left. Now am 49. with 18 I bought an expensice encyclopedia of a catolic university, a comparison of theological terms of Jewish faith, christian faith and muslim faith to get a better picture of the biblical terms. It was complicated to read, the language ist scientifical, but it lead me to the conlusion that JW have false picture of the church. Issues like blood and sacrificies seemed important for me.
Many years I didnt read religious literature at all because my wife didnt allow me to read, out of fear that I am going back to the witnesses. I married catolic, returned to the church. Nobody of my collegaues of my actual friens knows that I have ever been a witness. Even my daughter doesnt knows of it. About 2000 I got a Bible as christmans present of my daughter. And i liked the comments therein. About 2005 I found some theological book of pope benedikt in a church for free and read it, than I visited a church which functions as central catolic mission basis in my country and i began to read and like to booklets. How much simplier than JW-faith I thought, And now I can say that for each question, were the JW right or not, I found an answer in the catolic mission books for me personally.
This is the reason no why I would like so much to share my discoveries about sacrifice, ransom, redemption, sin, guilt,... all these complitaed old words, sometimes like labyrinth withouth not way out. sometimes I said, I dont wanna hear those theories anymore. But now I am happy that I didnt give up. I am a couch theologian and I wished I had a professional eduation, theological and biblical earlier.
I am trying to put all things togehter and get a picture that is my image of god now.
and I hope that I am not boring anyone with my sometimes complicated insights.But I think that escpially for ex-jw we should be well informed about terms like:
ransom, sin, sacrifice, redemption.... shouldnt we?
As Paul said:
"To the Jews I became as a Jew, so that I might win Jews; to those who are under the Law, as under the Law though not being myself under the Law, so that I might win those who are under the Law; 21to those who are without law, as without law, though not being without the law of God but under the law of Christ, so that I might win those who are without law."
Wasnt that our motivation as JW? Why did we then not study the jewish religion, why dont we know what HaShem means, why cant we talk with a catolic about the meaning of the ten commandments, because JW dont learn anything really deepgoing about other religions.
The Awake said "in the preaching work we learn about other cultures and to have respect of other religions", while the Watchtower at the same time condemns the other religions as Babylon that is only awaiting the final innihilation, the clerks would be the first feeling the hand of the UN-lead forces innihilating them.
That is no respect of other religions and so they will never learn anything about other religions, how can you help someone without knowing the other religion better than mentioning: they have the trinity, they are supporting war, they bless weapons, they adore Mary that is idolatry, they have pagan tradition, christmas, easter. They dont need to know more?
If you would like to discuss the terms, ransom, sacrifice further with me, I would be glad.
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Latest institutional response
by TheWonderofYou inwhaaaat di-di-did they say there in australia?.
"you look old now".. "oh only because i am a old institution dinosaur, but they respect me either, dont they?.
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TheWonderofYou
Whaaaat di-di-did they say there in Australia?
"You look old now".
"Oh only because I am a old institution dinosaur, but they respect me either, dont they?
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Day 4 Looks to Be Live at Any Moment - Link...and Upcoming Witness List!
by LostGeneration inhttps://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.
anyone know who this monty baker is?
i'm sure this guy will be able to tell the rc how things work behind the scenes without all the evasiveness, being that he is an "apostate".
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TheWonderofYou
Can you give more details about the connections between tricky lawyer arguments about....or write s spevial thread.
..theliterature is openly writing about how handle abuse cased, elder book
But we cannot talk about abuse in the congregation, not warn, bevause th JC is about pastoral secrecy., we cant give info to the public and to police because it is pastoral secrecy
judicial is public,pastoral not? AND effect for victims?
is it a pastoral committee or a judicial committee
Th judicisl system wil
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How much was Christ's ransom sacrifice? Equal to Adam?
by jonathan dough inhow much was the ransom?
gods justice did not require an exact equivalent man-for-man sacrifice between the first adam and jesus, the second adam.
gods gift required more.
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TheWonderofYou
@CalebinFloroda, kind regards.
Your scripture passages of Ezekiel emphazise that sin is a dsturbance of the connection between man and god, and that god is ready to forgive a repented sinner.
But its a fact too that jews knew sacrificies for sins. I cant explain yet why the jews had sacrificies in the temple at all? Was that an optional ritual? Animal were killed although the prophets said it was useless? Of some sacrifice was said that they would atone sins of the highpriest and of the people ..oxen.., the asasel was not killed but sent to the desert with the sins that were not atoned, the lamb was a daily sacrifice for sin at the morning whorship in the temple called Tamid sacrifice, we have the pesach passah lamb which was slaughtered and sacrified once a year for blessing and welfare. At Jom kippur the highpriest spelled the divine name but not after s sacrifice and after one person forgave its next.
So ...was not the jewish religion and its pictures actually the basis for applicstion of "sacrifice"pictures unto jesus?
what was the addional sense of the sacrificies a the temple, if a sin was forgiven bx god directly
only for discussion, to come further thx.
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If Disfellowshipping pedophiles protects the congregation, what does it do for "Those Outside" they are expelled to?
by Wasanelder Once inwe all know the wt basis for disfellowshipping, (1 corinthians 5:9-13) 9 12 for what do i have to do with judging those outside?
do you not judge those inside, 13 while god judges those outside?
remove the wicked [man] from among yourselves.. if removing "the man" is a protection for the congregation and no police are called, what does it say about the witnesses view of the world?
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TheWonderofYou
As citizen everybody has a liabilty to protect others from harm.
That is called civil courage, moral courage.
The elders have to protect others for the collective good.