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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  Sanchy

  No one is arguing what the bible teaches about the Earth. There is much debate as to this matter, and it's up to the interpretation of any that wants to take a stab at it, you'll find much such debate online. The main point is that WT is dogmatic about certain teachings that are biblicly baseless:

  -The Great Crowd is in heaven, not on earth as WT teaches

  -Where WT teaches that there are 2 types of resurrections with the biggest one being a physical one here on Earth, the bible instead teaches only 1 resurrection hope, that is that they resurrect into a spiritual body where they live as "angels in heaven" (Luke 20:36)
  
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  No, apparently you don't fully understand the doctrine A Believer. I urge you to research it in JW literature.

  The WT teaches these are two completely different group, with two completely different hopes. The 144k according to WT are the ONLY ones that go to heaven after death, where they will rule as kings over the Earth. The Great Crows on the other hand are JWs alive today with an Earthly hope. They will survive Armageddon and live on paradise Earth forever (so long as they survive the final test after the first 1000 years) This is where the error lies. The bible clearly shows that the Great Crowd is in heaven, thus ripping to shreds this silly WT doctrine.
  

  You can find more info here:

  
  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/great-crowd-other-sheep.php
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  Sanchy

  Regarding the resurrection, the bible nowhere speaks of a physical resurrection on Earth, as WT teaches. If you read 1 Cor 15 you'll find that the resurrection the bible teaches of is spiritual one, in other words, a resurrection to a spiritual body and thus to a heavenly location. This is in line with how Jesus described the Resurrection as well (Read Luke 20:36)
  
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  Sanchy

  A Believer, now I believe you are indeed truthful when you claim you only recently took up researching JW doctrine.

  Reason I say this is that its basic WT doctrine that all JWs know. The JW teaching regarding the Great crowd is that they are those that associate with the WT (otherwise known as JWs) that survive Armageddon and live in paradise Earth (btw, the term "paradise earth" never appears in scripture anywhere).
  

  The fact that you automatically assumed the Great Crowd was indeed in heaven should point to you that it is an easy doctrine to reason from Scripture. Yet, the WT still teaches something contrary to this easy reasoning.
  
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  Perhaps A Believer, no one can say dogmatically the Great Crowd is this group or the other because the bible is not clear regarding that matter. I would argue tho that there is more evidence pointing to them being in heaven, "before the throne", rather than them being on Earth like WT teaches.

  Another WT doctrine I found to be inccorect: It teaches there are two types of resurrection. One spiritual for the 144k and the other much larger physical resurrection on Earth. What does the Bible really teach regarding this matter? I invite you to read 1 Cor 15th, the entire chapter, then you tell me how the Bible describes the resurrection.
  
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  Wait, A Believer, nowhere does it say that ONLY the 144k go to heaven.. and what happens to the Earth is besides the point I'm telling you to research.

  The question is: Where is the Great Crowd located. Read Rev 7 and 19:1 and then ask yourself if the WT is correct regarding this point or not.
  
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  Thanks for coming clean A Believer. I understand why you would want to conceal the fact that you have a much deeper JW background.

  You know, JWs do have many things that do make sense. I do agree that there is sufficient biblical evidence to imply that Jesus and Jehovah are not the same person. Having said that, there are many other beliefs and practices of the JW org that are not biblical.

  For instance, just one out of many: do some research on where the Great Crowd is located. Watchtower claims they are on Earth. Read Rev 7, then 19:1, and ask yourself is this is really the case.

  In my studies I found may more doctrines, like this one, that are not in accordance with the bible. If you'd like a list, feel free to PM me.
  
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  A Believer, you haven't answered my question. Is it still your case that you have only been studying for a few weeks and that you are not baptized?
  
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  Do You Remember When JWs Relished Explaining Their Beliefs?

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  i bet most witnesses could not explain their blood policy, their understanding of the slave, and even simple biblical doctrines....they are an embarrassment to any old timer..

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  A Believer, so you are not baptized and you've only been studying for around 3 weeks now, right?
  
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  Putin cronies caught again placing banned lit at the KH

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  can these guys not see that there are surveillance cams all over the kh??

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  https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodourorganization/docid-802016753_1_video.

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  Sanchy

  I understand the skepticism one might have toward WT claims; however, there is no reason to doubt the validity of what's going on in this video.

  This kind of thing happens daily in Russia. There are quite a few other vids on youtube showing their mistreatment of JWs and other similar religions.