regarding D-Day and the following death of millions of people - would it not - for a rational standpoint - have been better to negotiate a peace treaty? |
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Read These NEWS Headlines LOL IRAQ WWII ........
by ThiChi inso many people think that we've never been through anything like this before.
"iraq is horrible and wrong.
" it's understandable when you look at the press coverage the democrats are getting, talking about this "micromanaging" every little thing that goes wrong.
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US Hostage, Paul Johnson, Beheaded
by DevonMcBride inhttp://www.cnn.com/2004/world/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/index.html report: u.s. hostage beheaded al arabiya says new video shows killing
friday, june 18, 2004 posted: 1:38 pm edt (1738 gmt) .
(cnn) -- an arabic tv news network said friday that american hostage paul johnson jr. has been beheaded by his saudi captors.
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yeru, we seem unwilling to KILL them for it.
you mean like 2 days ago where a US helicopter bombed a house in falludja killing over 30 people?!
if you take all killings into account the US is 100 times ahead of the terrorists even if they do it in a more "civilized" way.
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US Hostage, Paul Johnson, Beheaded
by DevonMcBride inhttp://www.cnn.com/2004/world/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/index.html report: u.s. hostage beheaded al arabiya says new video shows killing
friday, june 18, 2004 posted: 1:38 pm edt (1738 gmt) .
(cnn) -- an arabic tv news network said friday that american hostage paul johnson jr. has been beheaded by his saudi captors.
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in the case of iraq? simple...the bush admin (probably) underestimated the resistance they would face.
for the oil prices in general...for one thing they hit primarily the consumers who have to pay more for gas and products. this is of little concern to the industry as long as they can retain their profits (which especially the oil industry does). secondly, even if you control all the oil in the world if the production costs go up (for whatever reason, e.g. smaller world wide resources) so will the gas prices.
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US Hostage, Paul Johnson, Beheaded
by DevonMcBride inhttp://www.cnn.com/2004/world/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/index.html report: u.s. hostage beheaded al arabiya says new video shows killing
friday, june 18, 2004 posted: 1:38 pm edt (1738 gmt) .
(cnn) -- an arabic tv news network said friday that american hostage paul johnson jr. has been beheaded by his saudi captors.
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pat,
Good one Sandy! I've heard and read a few comments about Christians not following the example of Jesus, but following more the example of Moses.
too bad 95% of the bible is pure BS. the only stuff with value is what jesus (supposedly) said.
fourty,
the US is trying to control the world (at least the parts with lucrative natural resources). surprisingly not all people outside (and inside) the US are happy with this.
no one is defending what these nutcase muslims do - but that they attack the US is because of the american presence in the middle east.
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US Hostage, Paul Johnson, Beheaded
by DevonMcBride inhttp://www.cnn.com/2004/world/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/index.html report: u.s. hostage beheaded al arabiya says new video shows killing
friday, june 18, 2004 posted: 1:38 pm edt (1738 gmt) .
(cnn) -- an arabic tv news network said friday that american hostage paul johnson jr. has been beheaded by his saudi captors.
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yeru,
if you're not baying for blood you're part of the problem...it aids the terrorists. You're either part of the solution, or you're part of the problem.
no, it is people like you who are the problem on BOTH sides. nutcases that are willing to go somewhere and kill people for their ideological ideas should be institutionalized.
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US Hostage, Paul Johnson, Beheaded
by DevonMcBride inhttp://www.cnn.com/2004/world/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/index.html report: u.s. hostage beheaded al arabiya says new video shows killing
friday, june 18, 2004 posted: 1:38 pm edt (1738 gmt) .
(cnn) -- an arabic tv news network said friday that american hostage paul johnson jr. has been beheaded by his saudi captors.
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yeru,
for one thing if americans would not be there than they counld not get killed there right?
secondly this has very much to do with collonialism. the west is trying to pressure its value system onto these people. whether the west has the right system or not - this is causing resistance.
Tell me when it was again that a stealth bomber dropped a bomb on Saudi Arabia?
i did not say they did! i merely stated whom you see fit for negotiations and whom you see unfit. someone who drops bombs in the name of capitalism is a honorable man right?
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US Hostage, Paul Johnson, Beheaded
by DevonMcBride inhttp://www.cnn.com/2004/world/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/index.html report: u.s. hostage beheaded al arabiya says new video shows killing
friday, june 18, 2004 posted: 1:38 pm edt (1738 gmt) .
(cnn) -- an arabic tv news network said friday that american hostage paul johnson jr. has been beheaded by his saudi captors.
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yeru,
No darlin, it's called sarcasm
i was afraid you would say that. too bad really!
let's find these guys and negotiate with them
of course not - because only people who kill others with bombs dropped from stealth bombers deserve the right to negotiate right?
No, my solution, jail them on a mosiquito infested Island somewhere feeding them only pork products and bury them in pig entrals when they die.
good luck with that!
you should realize that a colonial power will always face some opposition - no matter how many enemies you kill or put in jail - especially if you try to impose your lifestyle on the other culture.
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US Hostage, Paul Johnson, Beheaded
by DevonMcBride inhttp://www.cnn.com/2004/world/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/index.html report: u.s. hostage beheaded al arabiya says new video shows killing
friday, june 18, 2004 posted: 1:38 pm edt (1738 gmt) .
(cnn) -- an arabic tv news network said friday that american hostage paul johnson jr. has been beheaded by his saudi captors.
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devon,
i talked a month ago with a representative of OPEL (a german daughter company of GM) about their hydrogen fuel cell car. he said the car might become available in 10 years but there is no hydrogen distribution system.
aside from that....do people care about dependence on the middle east? hardly. people don't care about the environemnt which keeps us alive. why would they start to care about something so abstract as the influence of US dollars on the middle east.
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US Hostage, Paul Johnson, Beheaded
by DevonMcBride inhttp://www.cnn.com/2004/world/meast/06/18/saudi.kidnap/index.html report: u.s. hostage beheaded al arabiya says new video shows killing
friday, june 18, 2004 posted: 1:38 pm edt (1738 gmt) .
(cnn) -- an arabic tv news network said friday that american hostage paul johnson jr. has been beheaded by his saudi captors.
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devon,
the technology is in slowly getting there. 10 years sounds quite optimistic but perhaps. in any case the hydrogen fuel cell cars will not be a competition to the normal cars unless gas become a lot more expensive.
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Read These NEWS Headlines LOL IRAQ WWII ........
by ThiChi inso many people think that we've never been through anything like this before.
"iraq is horrible and wrong.
" it's understandable when you look at the press coverage the democrats are getting, talking about this "micromanaging" every little thing that goes wrong.
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chevy,
i agree. and the more desperate the situation got the more extreme the actions.