jw's repeat mt.
24:14 like a mantra.. but who was he speaking to, us gentiles in the church age?
no, he was speaking to the jews, god's covenant people.
Perry:
Jesus died at the behest of the Jewish religious leaders he was sent to save. But, he didn't stay dead!
mP:
I was not aware that the Romans took orders from any Jew, especially wannabe competitors such as religious leaders. I always thought Rome was in charge.
SO why didnt Jehovah just forgive, why did he have to send his son on a suicide mission ? Is this any different from other martyrs we see today on tv ?
jw's repeat mt.
24:14 like a mantra.. but who was he speaking to, us gentiles in the church age?
no, he was speaking to the jews, god's covenant people.
Perry:
Mt 24:14 is an insertion. All of j other directions are too preach to only the lost sheep of israel. Peter & James believed the later, this is clearly shown in the writings of Paul and Acts where the disciples would only talk , eat and preach to fellow jews. If jesus wanted them to preach to non jews, they never got the message.
Paul just made up the preach to gentiles idea on his own.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/manukau-courier/9124458/witnesses-sell-elim-buys.
it was the national headquarters for the jehovah's witnesses for 30 years.. but the 7.5ha wattle downs property has now been sold to elim church and could soon house a new christian college.. jehovah's witness minister george gray says advances in technology mean the property is no longer needed for running the church's new zealand and south pacific activities which will now be administered from australia.. elim church bought the property for its growing south auckland congregation and volunteers helped transform the site in just a matter of days.. pastor boyd ratnaraja says the congregation moved in on a sunday straight after morning services at their much smaller weymouth rd premises.. "they have done a superb job of setting up," he says.. the church will hold services for its 450-strong congregation at its new home as well as running counselling sessions and operating an op shop and a weekly soup kitchen.. "we believe in reaching out to the community.
we want this to be a centre of hope.
I wonder if they would sell any building to the church of Satan for the right price ?
imagine the dilemma..... you have a message to spread, but spreading it may cost you money when selling your property as your message is a little embarassing and weird.... do you paint over it and secure the sale or leave it be and stand by your message in the hope it saves even one more life?.
it really isn't the same religion i grew up in!
people have died defending and spreading that message from brooklyn, a message that they would now paint over for the sake of a building sale... .
lakes make it easier to guard the property with the added bonus of being nice too look at.
there is a corresponding topic on science and the immortal soul that reminded me of something that i had encountered in the 7th chapter of josephus's history of the roman campaigns in judea, "the jewish war".
one version of this is available in penguin classics, for example.
"among the jews are three schools of thought, whose adherents are called pharisees, sadducees and essenes respectively...".
@kepler
Of course Daniel got it from the Greeks, who do you think ruled Judea about 160bc!
now in no way am i trying to discredit anyones beliefs or make fun, but once you get to heaven what is the plan once you get there.. of course, we always overlay extremely physical things upon the experience of heaven... milk and honey... ruiling over the earth etc... truthful the whole idea sounds so boring / mundane /monotonous.
spending all of eternity serving god by carry messages here and there?.
watching humans... i guess spending time with family that are also there and reminiscing.
TEC
Except that is not really accurate. There was acknowledgement of the Most High God before Abraham, and certainly before Israel. But Abraham had the faith to hear and to obey, and a covenant was made with him, that carried to his descendants... even though the covenant now is for anyone.
mP:
So what did A do that was so special that God was his friend and made him all those promises ? The funny thing is A is not faithful nor are there any accounts of him being especially good in the Bible. There are numerous times when he shoul dhave called jehovah for help i th ebeginning but he hides this and lets pharoah take Sarah.
i'm still determined not to vote - just to write something unpleasant about pollies on the ballot paper.
if i lived in victoria, i just may, as an act of sheer bastardry, vote for julian assange (of wikileaks fame), but i don't live in vic, so i cant.. my objection to voting is that the political choice offers two self-perpetuating oligarchies (who are something like the governing body).
they make up a slate of candidates and election advertising consists of attempting to persuade swinging voters to vote for their slate of candidates.. anyway, i noted that k.rudd has made a video in chinese, aimed apparently at mainland china.
jeffro:
Other readers, note that mP resorts to attacks, claiming I 'lied' about numbers.
Actually, I didn't contradict any numbers he provided, but I clearly indicated that there are other factors quite apart from Liberal policies that affect asylum seeker numbers.
mP:
You quite clearly said that the lib policy didnt stop the boats, and not your again giving us a basic overview of problem nations. We all know there are problems, that however does not change what you original said.
Im only repeating what you said, nothing more or less.
| Jeffro | posted a day ago (9/3/2013) |
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I also showed that less boats saves lives because as we know, these boats often sink with loss of life. You were however painting another picture. Its amazing how poorly you quote what i say and what you say, and how you conveniently skip portions that are inconvenient.
pastor brian houston, senior pastor of the hillsong church franchise ( i think they are pentecostal originally) hooked up all 100 (or so) churches in his franchise on sunday august 18, 2013 and preached a sermon to his true believers:.
my friend sent me some information about this sermon.
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I would suggest you read about BH, particularly how he covered up his father's sexual abuse and interferred with the justice and the police.
It would appear that Jesus loves pedophiles, all his churches are plagued with his teachings and pedophiles.
Well start at the beginning. Gen 1 & 2 present two different creation accounts. read each one and note the order of creation, of the animals, A and E. One says they were both created together and the other has the rib account. Then zoom along too Noah and the flood in Gen 7 & 8. One says 40 days and the other 150 days the earth was covered. One says to gather 2 each animal and the other 7.
Perhaps hte classic example are the gospels. Mt and Lk are basically copies of mk often word for word with minor edits. Lookup synoptic gospels what it means and why.
i'm still determined not to vote - just to write something unpleasant about pollies on the ballot paper.
if i lived in victoria, i just may, as an act of sheer bastardry, vote for julian assange (of wikileaks fame), but i don't live in vic, so i cant.. my objection to voting is that the political choice offers two self-perpetuating oligarchies (who are something like the governing body).
they make up a slate of candidates and election advertising consists of attempting to persuade swinging voters to vote for their slate of candidates.. anyway, i noted that k.rudd has made a video in chinese, aimed apparently at mainland china.
jeffro:
I've got better things to do than put up with you calling me liar.
mP:
You did lie, therefore you are a liar. If im lying post a link showing the facts ive linked are wrong. You can hate news ltd but they you cant say the numbers are lies.
