I want to make it perfectly clear that I am deeply in love with my wife.
>>wipes brow in relief<< You kept saying you "like" her and get along so well, I was a bit worried.
Rachel
i follow the threads on legal questions with interest because somewhere inside me is this voice yelling at me to get back at those bastards that lied to me and my family and all the other good people i have come to know here and abroad.
i too carry a lot of anger with me from my experience as a witness.
however, another poster raised the question "what is your ultimate goal?
I want to make it perfectly clear that I am deeply in love with my wife.
>>wipes brow in relief<< You kept saying you "like" her and get along so well, I was a bit worried.
Rachel
i follow the threads on legal questions with interest because somewhere inside me is this voice yelling at me to get back at those bastards that lied to me and my family and all the other good people i have come to know here and abroad.
i too carry a lot of anger with me from my experience as a witness.
however, another poster raised the question "what is your ultimate goal?
I suppose it did look like I was defending you. Didn't mean to, I know you can stick up for yourself! I was just amazed that someone totally outside your circle would make such a statement. Easy to say when you have no stake in it. Your response was good.
Hang in there!
Love - Rachel
i follow the threads on legal questions with interest because somewhere inside me is this voice yelling at me to get back at those bastards that lied to me and my family and all the other good people i have come to know here and abroad.
i too carry a lot of anger with me from my experience as a witness.
however, another poster raised the question "what is your ultimate goal?
((((Sean)))) So sorry about everything. It must be incredibly stressful for you. Mom's advice is good along with your resolve to no longer keep silent. Since silence isn't working you have to do what feels right to you. This is your life and you need to work on making it good for you. You can't make L happy, that is her responsibility. I think she will come around in time, I was thinking when I was reading your post about how hard your mom dug her heels in after your dad and even my mom left!
I think you are right about B and "Big Momma", that totally cracked me up.
Moe, "here" is just north of Seattle in Washington state. Come on up and see us sometime!
Bonovox,
If you can't appeal to your wife on the grounds of love for the person that each of you married, not the religious faith, then she isn't worth it and if you don't get out you will be needing more than a bi-weekly appt with a therapist. You may have other interests tied up in it (such as financial which you highlighted) but they are lame reasons to stay with someone.
Since you don't know Sean or his wife, I think you are totally out of line saying this. It's easy to say his reasons are lame if you know nothing about him and are totally uninvolved.
Work on re-establishing your self-esteem and do not harp on what you might lose, because if you gain only your mental and emotional well-being by doing what's right for you then you will have gained much more than you've lost.
That however is great advice!
Rachel
for married couples who ended up leaving the jws together, which spouse broke from the jws first?
what was your reaction to your spouse leaving at first?
what made you decide to finally leave with your spouse?.
I remember I went skiing with my brother one day. He works with my dad and told me dad had been reading some literature and talking with some other elder friends about the bible and some of the teachings they didn't agree with. He said dad could be disfellowshipped for what he was reading and discussing. I was horrified and talked to my dad about it. I also talked to my husband about it and he was coming to the same conclusions in his research. The literature dad had been reading (essays written by an elder, now out along with some other published works) got passed around. We started fading out then. After our first child was born we left for good.
Rachel
i'm sorry that due to "technical difficulties', last weekend's poll did not appear, but thanks to all those who enquired about why it was not posted.
glad you're enjoying them!
so, time to put your feet up, so to speak, and have some fun with this weekend's poll.
It helped make up our springboard into freedom. I remember those watchtower studies, at least half the congo didn't even realize it was different.
Rachel
oh darn...i hate when life grants those wishes, when you ask for them.
this august 7th i leave the u.s. and fly to rio de janeiro and will be coming back late january or should time provide, mid march.
i dread staying untill march, because of carnival...i know, i know...terrible, absolutely terrible.
You poor, poor man. I'm honored you are sacrificing some time in Rio to attend our party!
Oh no, Vennies coming!!!!
Rachel
thursday evening after taking our daughter to dinner to celebrate her fourth birthday, my son (five years old) disappeared.
zoe said he was over at the "church park" a playground next door on the baptist church property.
i wandered over to look for him but he wasn't there.
When I got home from the gym both kids were in bed asleep. Steve did say they both came home wet, just to tease me.
Thanks for telling me that Been There, I'll keep an eye on things. In reality, he is just as Mulan says. He is a sociable boy and manages to get right in the middle of everything. We were at his school picnic on Friday and I'm pretty sure he sampled everyone's dessert.
Don't worry mom, we won't let the baptists get a hold of him. I was thinking about VBS after he had so much fun there. I'd do it but we would miss half the week due to our Boston trip. Maybe next year.
Rachel
thursday evening after taking our daughter to dinner to celebrate her fourth birthday, my son (five years old) disappeared.
zoe said he was over at the "church park" a playground next door on the baptist church property.
i wandered over to look for him but he wasn't there.
Thursday evening after taking our daughter to dinner to celebrate her fourth birthday, my son (five years old) disappeared. Zoe said he was over at the "church park" a playground next door on the Baptist church property. I wandered over to look for him but he wasn't there. Then I noticed there was a group of people in the church gym playing and peeked in the door. There was Rhys, playing frisbee with someone out of my line of vision. I could see he was having fun and it seemed harmless so I left. A few minutes later he came running in the front door and then a minute later he was gone again. Then he came back to pick up some drinks for himself and "Jason, a big guy". That was when I noticed he was wearing a name tag. I decided I should at least let this big guy named Jason know that I knew Rhys was over there and to make sure it was ok. I found them drinking their Kool Aid and walking around. Jason said it was fine and Rhys said "come on let's go" and they went back in the gym.
Rhys came back home again to pick up Zoe. He said he was going to listen to the concert and he was "in the church now". That was when I left for the gym and turned the supervision over to my husband. We were out on our deck the whole time where we can see the church and the open gym door. When they finally came in for the evening they were both wearing name tags. And that is the story of how my five year old son became a baptist.
I still don't like that particular church but they were nice to my kids and they had some fun over there. Maybe they were trying to be nice to us since it is approaching the time of year when they have a lot of ourdoor activities and tend to be on the VERY LOUD side. It won't stop me from calling the police but it was pretty funny at the time.
Rachel
happy father's day!!!
at least in the usa today (i don't know about elsewhere) we are celebrating dad's day.
i wish a great day to all you great dad's out there.
It's creature worship Obie. Didn't you know that? You are encouraging your children to worship you. What total crap.
Happy father's day to all the dads out there. You do a wonderful job.
Rachel
last saturday, a former ministerial servant and pioneer committed suicide in the woodinville washington kingdom hall parking lot.
he was disfellowshipped several years ago, and according to the old sister that related the story to me today, he was depressed because no one would talk to him.
i don't know how i kept calm when she explained to me that "we couldn't talk to him...he was disfellowshipped.".
Interesting how some blame it on being in an unloving area Sabine. I heard the same thing regarding Lynnwood when we left. Someone told me that any other congo but Lynnwood would have treated us better. They are all the same. The person who told me that has since seen the light and left after her sister was treated VERY badly by the elders and the rest of the gang.
I also agree with your comments to You Know. If his heart ever grew to normal size, we might just forget how totally unloving they all are. I am loving the fact that dubs are now put in the position of defending the bloodguilty and pedophiles.
As soon as this crazy weekend is over I am going to sit down and forward a lot of this information to the local newsstations. It needs the media attention.
Rachel