Ok thanks for the sources. I guess in this epoch, a lot of larger hope books were written. Most were universalist but there were also some that said people would get a "first real chance to be saved in favorable conditions on earth". I can see why some people would arrive at this as a favorable conclusion but it is equally clear that it all depends on Russell being the special divinely appointed messenger of Jehovah in effect bringing us new scripture. The Bible says nothing about this particular scenario. Russell/JW teachings depend on the leadership being God's mouthpiece although they have always been coy about it. The followers imagined he saw things in Scripture others did not, few imagined he wrote new scripture .
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William Miller
by lepavoux in" this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!
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William Miller
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JoenB75
Vienne,
I am not taking about mortality of the soul. I see nothing in chapter 7 of Tertullian's "Prescription of Heretics" about the teaching "about a resurrection of most of mankind to a first real chance of proving themselves worthy to life on earth". You then say "and I see it as easy to derive from the Bible." ok I must have missed that
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William Miller
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JoenB75
vienne,
The one thing that fascinates me about Russell is this; from where did he get his teaching about a resurrection of most of mankind to a first real chance of proving themselves worthy to life on earth? Who taught it before him? Any clues?
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JoenB75
I am sure as an occultist there was some fellow ground, whatever you want to call it
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by lepavoux in" this is the man who made it all happen" type this in.. this is how the watchtower organization began!
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JoenB75
In the early church you had people that taught Premillennialism in the form that Christ would pop up as King on earth and restore it. You had people that believed the torment of the damned lasted 1,000 years "only" or that they after ages of torment would be saved, perhaps even more charitable views. But I have never heard of anyone in Christian context prior to Russell claiming that almost all the dead would be raised on earth to education and second chance. On the other hand it is hard to imagine he made it up himself 😊
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Did you attend the ''Always Rejoice!'' 2020 Convention? You missed out on true HAPPINESS!
by RULES & REGULATIONS in2020 convention of jehovah’s witnesses: “always rejoice”!.
in this problem-filled world, true happiness can be found.
learn how to rejoice constantly!
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JoenB75
Cookiemaster, maybe they got a new marketing man saying we need a "worldly" cute casual style girl. I noticed her too a few hours ago, only because a Lloyd Evans video popped up with her in it😄
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How do JWs view the Ransom?
by Vanderhoven7 inlooking for a simple explanation of the ransom from a jws perspective..
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JoenB75
Stephen lett's comment was probably not well thought over. In jw teaching, Jesus is God's ever obedient super servant and what makes God happy, makes Jesus happy. If anything it shows a disdain for Jesus you dont find in the Bible
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How do JWs view the Ransom?
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JoenB75
LV101, I basically believe God became man but no trinity. He was existing as God but simultaniously took on the existence of man in the incarnation (Philippians 2:6-7).
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Why Does It Seem That Black People Are Always Being Shot By The Police?
by minimus inthere is either a conspiracy against blacks in this country and police are out to get them or it’s that they are getting caught breaking the law and often times refuse to obey police authority.
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JoenB75
Blacks 13% of US population and responsible for 50% of all murders? I can understand BLM is ashamed about it
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How do JWs view the Ransom?
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Vanderhoven7, exactly. Arianism/Unitarianism might be more rational, but there is a profound power in Jesus being God himself. In JW theology, Jesus is enigmaticly both the creator of all other things and one of the princes. I remember a video about young people making the wonderful choice of full time ministry and Stephen Lett said "It would make Jesus happy and more importantly it would make Jehovah happy". I had to listen to that a few times before it sinked in. He really said that