peacefulpete
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Opinions on the Divine name in the New Testament? + an interesting question
by Blotty ini am genuinely curious and mainly posting this for research purposes, i do not have enough knowledge on either of these subjects to debate them in any useful manner.. (this information is as far as i am aware and may be incorrect in places)as most know the nwt is known for placing a form of the divine name in the nt (new testament) - while i agree the evidence is significantly weak for it too appear in the nt, a few things must be considered - (from my limited research)rev references the name twice (3:12, 14:1)early copies of the lxx contain the divine name (likely the versions that the nt writers copied?
stafford has a couple of videos on this subject)it was emphasized over and over the name [divine name, which ever form you prefer] would be "known" (other words used aswell) forever - if this is true, why then go against your own message in some cases and replace it with a surrogate?some also claim the nwt is dishonest for not translating some occurrences of "lord" as the divine name - common ones i notice are: phil 2:10-11, 1pe 3:14-15, heb 1:10yet these all use "lord" as a title not a proper noun, seems to be staunch trinitarians who make this claim most oftenscholar qualifications:why does a scholars qualification's matter?
sounds dumb i know.
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peacefulpete
I find inexplicable that the WT insists the texts of the NT were altered for theological reasons but refuse to acknowledge what that implies. In short it means nothing can be assumed original or complete. -
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Article: The Crypto Ponzi Scheme Avenger - [A former JW]
by AndersonsInfo in(this article is available by subscription only so i copied and pasted it below.).
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/business/crypto-ponzi-scheme-hyperfund.html.
here's part of the information about mr. de hek's past as a jw:.
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peacefulpete
The stock market is fundamentally different from cryptos in that they represent shares in actual industry. But your point is taken that they can and are at times driven by irrational panic and greed. Being aware of that can also prevent rushing to trade in or out.
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Article: The Crypto Ponzi Scheme Avenger - [A former JW]
by AndersonsInfo in(this article is available by subscription only so i copied and pasted it below.).
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/business/crypto-ponzi-scheme-hyperfund.html.
here's part of the information about mr. de hek's past as a jw:.
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peacefulpete
There are psychological parallels in euphoria felt and the irrationality. They could also be said to be in parallel in the FOMO. fear of missing out driving them. I've had people frankly tell me "why take a chance of being wrong" when defending their religion. It can be powerful. However it's said just knowing you are susceptible to FOMO can give you pause, a moment to objectively consider your choices.
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Freemasons
by UnDisfellowshipped ini am posting this thread because i've seen some people ask "who are the freemasons?
back a few years ago, i had never heard of the masons before.. then, i had some masons involved in my life, so i did a lot of research into them (at the library, on the internet, in books, testimony by former masons, etc.)..
i will start a thread soon and post my beliefs and opinions on freemasonry.. here are a few things i have found in my research.. in a "well-ordered" masonic lodge, masons are allowed to believe in any god they want to, except jesus christ.. in fact, in a "well-ordered" masonic lodge, the name jesus christ should not even be mentioned.. that makes one wonder, doesn't it?.
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peacefulpete
This stuff is like cocaine to conspiracy theorists. Why not just reach and talk to your local Masons?
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Are you convinced what the Gospels say about Jesus is true?
by Fisherman inprobably, the greatest advocacy for the gospels is the jw publication: the greatest man that ever lived.
it convinced me.. everything else that the bible says about the resurrection and eternal life logically follows.. the testimony of a “witness” in court matters only if it is observation not commentary ( expert witness is also commentary): what did you see, what did you hear, what is the magnitude of your measurement.
not, are you convinced; that is only belief.
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peacefulpete
Ironically it was the greatest man book that broke the spell completely. I was conducting and we poured over the material and wt explanations. The glossing over contradictions and impossible attempts to harmonize sunk in.
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Favorite Xmas movie?
by peacefulpete inelf...simply a great movie imo.
funny, heartwarming and well acted..
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I know, downvoting Zooey, Newhart, and Ferrell. Come on. -
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Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?
by Roger Kirkpatrick inthesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?
happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.
truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.
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peacefulpete
Not a single comment or question regarding my earlier explanation? who is the vineyard/field/household? israel. Who is the owner/master ? Yahweh. Who were contracted,hired,indentured to work? The Jewish religious leaders. How were they to be judged? How well they took care of the estate and recognized the time of the arrival of the son/messiah. When would they be judged? In the that generation. The authors having written right after or a few decades after 70 no doubt felt the repeated parable focus and meaning was self evident.
Let the texts interpret themselves.
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How do Jehovah's Witnesses differ from first century Christians?
by Vanderhoven7 inlet me start with a couple of distinctions.. first century christians:.
1. baptized military personnel.. 2. baptized men with political authority.
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peacefulpete
It's just a perceptual bias leading you to believe people are less trustworthy today than 2000 years ago. Those who would break into your car today, would have robbed your ass back then. Ba-dum-bum
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How do Jehovah's Witnesses differ from first century Christians?
by Vanderhoven7 inlet me start with a couple of distinctions.. first century christians:.
1. baptized military personnel.. 2. baptized men with political authority.
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peacefulpete
That's not an easy question. The earliest christian records already show huge diversity of thought,doctrine and practice. The authentic works of Paul show him trying to corral Christians to his spin on Christianity revealing that his was not the same as others. He seems to be tolerant of charismatics but not a promoter. Early church father's show a Christianity completely foreign to anything today. There was no Christian Canon,with hundreds of writings, now lost, in circulation. The orthodoxy that eventually dominated spent the next thousand years beating down holdouts and schisms. They never fully succeeded.
I'll sum by reminding everyone that nearly every new sect has asserted they were reestablishing "true" or "original" Christianity
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An interesting Observation of some Bibles
by Blotty infirst of all, hi, i go by blotty on this website :) i am someone who has a passion for the bible and like to get a as balanced view as i can from the trinitarian and the jw (or unitarian) side - even though i come off as leaning towards one or the other at times, in my opinion they both have merits in certain cases..if this is in the wrong section i apologise - this is just something i found interesting.iv seen online a lot that say the watchtower and tract society "invented" the link between proverbs 8:22 - 30 and jesus (the word).
yet interestingly some "mainstream" "trinitarian- aimed" translations are cross referencing the following:source:https://www.biblegateway.comprov 8:22 cr rev 3:14niv, gnt,esv, nasb, nasb1995, nasbre, cevprov 8:30 cr john 1:1,2 esv nasbprov 8:30 cr john 1:3esvnasb1995nasb(this list is by no means complete)if this is simply wisdom, why is it referenced with jesus (or the word)?.
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peacefulpete
Ancient mystical religious philosophy is as foreign to most modern Christians as Hinduism. Asking if logos or wisdom or light or son are physically identified in Jesus is like asking if Vishnu really had blue skin. It's simply a question that betrays ignorance. I'm hardly an expert in such matters but know enough to know how naive I am. A few works from writers like Ben Sira and Philo have survived. Take some time to learn how they developed these concepts. the writers of the New testament were heavily influenced by the metaphor and conceptualizations in the ethos of the day. Some even quoted them.