Rome was the capitol of a huge empire with coinage with deified emperors and gods embossed. They governed hundreds of ports and all roadways, taxed and regulated commerce for much of known world. What is unclear?
peacefulpete
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Babylon the Great
by Godlyman indo jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
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Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.
one that comes to mind is.
1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.
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peacefulpete
Yes 'cult' is a loaded word and not a diplomatic opener. A poster earlier nicely preferred, ' high control group' or something similar. It is the unhealthy psychological grip a movement or group has upon individuals that causes concern. Yes the academic usage of the word cult means any religious tradition, but in common usage it carries a negative connotation describing something dangerous, weird or unusual. Recently there has been an effort by mental health professionals to more narrowly define the word as describing movements and groups that elicit devotion through information control, hierarchal power structure and other methods. Still the word cult may not be the best term to use if trying to reason or persuade someone under the influence of such a group.
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Red Flags identifying Jehovah's Witnesses as a Cult
by Vanderhoven7 inwhat are some of the red flags that should alert people to the fact that jehovah's witnesses are a high control and damaging religion?.
one that comes to mind is.
1. one cannot leave jehovah's witnesses with one's reputation intact.
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peacefulpete
When you keep protesting that you are not in a cult, you may be in a cult.
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peacefulpete
If I was as old as God I'd have to write down names too.
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Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.
by solameguy12 inso i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.
but i don’t want to ask them my question.
but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?
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peacefulpete
The genomic evidence also confirmed this happened occasionally in the distant past in a similar way as the Sapien/Neand. genomics seems to.
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Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.
by solameguy12 inso i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.
but i don’t want to ask them my question.
but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?
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peacefulpete
Maybe the language in the caption below the chart I posted might help:
Figure 3Hypothetical evolutionary relationships among modern human populations, Neanderthals and Denisovans as inferred from genomic data.
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Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.
by solameguy12 inso i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.
but i don’t want to ask them my question.
but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?
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peacefulpete
Otherwise trustworthy people have blind spots. I certainly did. Honesty is not all that matters in determining what to believe. Discipline and emotional maturity, which we all imagine we have, are actually rarer than honesty.
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Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.
by solameguy12 inso i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.
but i don’t want to ask them my question.
but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?
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peacefulpete
The point I was trying to make is that there are parallels between the Sapien/Neandrethal relationship and the Bonobo/Chimpanzee relationship. There are still many who would define 'species' by the inability to successfully interbreed. By that definition bonobos are a subspecies not a distinct species as DNA evidence has shown occasional interbreeding.
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Early Hominem. Neanderthals. Evolution.
by solameguy12 inso i grew up as a witness but i’m no longer active, i have some family that still practices very seriously.
but i don’t want to ask them my question.
but what does the bible and teaching’s of jw’s say about early hominids?
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peacefulpete
Disi....The chart represents a model, a proposed reconstruction. Debates are the lifeblood of science. Sure there are uncertainties about the minutia. Just as today there are those who argue for regarding Bonobos a subspecies rather than a separate species, there are legitimate debates about where to spit the species lines in the deep past. The best part of science is the process. New evidence is always refining the big picture.
That can be frustrating to those who impatiently crave absolutes. There is simply no way to be dogmatic (tho individuals often are) about the details. Sadly conspiracy theories (I include Creationism) thrive on uncertainties and complexity.
Ironically, the new DNA evidence has illuminated the pictured by making it more complicated. While there always those who suspected it, the DNA evidence from Neanderthals seems to support the intermixing of distinct line of hominids. Simple models that look like a tree are oversimplifications, (and are recognized as such) in reality there were branches that merged, more dead ends, and branches that occasionally bumped into each other while remaining largely separate. It looked more like a matrix, a network of lineages.
Fossils can only show changes to bone, DNA can show much more. Subtle changes in protein signals that effect changes in cognition and immunity. Unfortunately this wonderful new window into the past is very limited by time and environmental conditions. But the Neanderthal. DNA seems to be proof of concept, distant cousins can and did interact and effect evolution of our species.
My reason for posting the chart wasn't to assert that that exact proposal was the last word on the topic but to show the authors of the papers did not doubt the relationship of Neanderthals to us.
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Babylon the Great
by Godlyman indo jw's still believe that babylon the great is the empire of false religion?
inquiring minds want to know .
estephan.
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peacefulpete
Ancient Babylon was a center of false worship. So, then, Babylon the Great must represent all forms of false worship.
That's about as silly as anything ever said by them. Babylon was a city, the capitol of a short-lived but significant empire. It's religious practices were no more "false" than that of any empire before or after them. Of course some Jewish writers hated the empire for what it had done, at the same time most Jews living in Babylon stayed there and thrived.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-babylonian-jewish-community