Perhaps you're recalling Deut 7:7 : Least not last.
peacefulpete
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Was / Is God biased ? prejudiced against certain Peoples / Tribes or Nations ?
by smiddy3 inlet me explain :.
after the creation account of the bible, tribes of people and nations began to form and spread around the land.. god first chose noah and his family to protect them as he destroys all others in the flood.. and he ticks off everyone in babel ?
and then he favours abraham and his descendants as the nation of israel culminating in the jewish lineage to jesus the son of god.. he has never had any dealings with any other people`s or nation isn`t that some form of favouritism ?
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Was / Is God biased ? prejudiced against certain Peoples / Tribes or Nations ?
by smiddy3 inlet me explain :.
after the creation account of the bible, tribes of people and nations began to form and spread around the land.. god first chose noah and his family to protect them as he destroys all others in the flood.. and he ticks off everyone in babel ?
and then he favours abraham and his descendants as the nation of israel culminating in the jewish lineage to jesus the son of god.. he has never had any dealings with any other people`s or nation isn`t that some form of favouritism ?
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peacefulpete
Fisherman...It'll probably sound snarky but God is supposed to be able to read hearts and see the future yet your defense of the choice of Israel (from a Christian perspective) reveals no such powers. If a God refuses to use his best talents for the salvation of mankind ought I be excited to hear he will be in control of everything?
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“Hanging the earth upon nothing”
by FFGhost infor those of you not up to speed on the latest jw trends, one of the key scriptures the jws are using in field serve-us lately is job 26:7, wherein the writer describes the earth as “hanging upon nothing”.. this text is used to indicate the bible’s “reliability”.
the reasoning goes something like this:.
“see, centuries ago, people thought the world was flat, or was resting on elephants or turtles, or some such nonsense.
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peacefulpete
The bible is unique in many aspects. It stands alone as different from other writings at the time. For example the code of Hammurabi, which is considered to precede that of the Torah, has lead critics to say that the Torah was merely a copy from the Babylonian empire.
Joe134cd..Yes the Bible is unique just as every civilization and their legal codes are unique. It might surprise you that Hammurabi lived well over a thousand years before the writing of Leviticus or Deuteronomy. It is often cited as an example of an ancient extensive legal code with some uncanny parallels to the later Jewish code.
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Was / Is God biased ? prejudiced against certain Peoples / Tribes or Nations ?
by smiddy3 inlet me explain :.
after the creation account of the bible, tribes of people and nations began to form and spread around the land.. god first chose noah and his family to protect them as he destroys all others in the flood.. and he ticks off everyone in babel ?
and then he favours abraham and his descendants as the nation of israel culminating in the jewish lineage to jesus the son of god.. he has never had any dealings with any other people`s or nation isn`t that some form of favouritism ?
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peacefulpete
When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance,
when he divided all mankind,
he set up boundaries for the peoples
according to the number of the sons of El.[b]
9 For Yahweh’s portion is his people,Jacob his allotted inheritance. Deut 32:8-9
Remember the early Yahwists frame Yahweh as their god exclusively, he had no jurisdiction or purview elsewhere. In time as their theological outlook globalized they saw him as the god of everywhere, but that they would always be his favorite.
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Was / Is God biased ? prejudiced against certain Peoples / Tribes or Nations ?
by smiddy3 inlet me explain :.
after the creation account of the bible, tribes of people and nations began to form and spread around the land.. god first chose noah and his family to protect them as he destroys all others in the flood.. and he ticks off everyone in babel ?
and then he favours abraham and his descendants as the nation of israel culminating in the jewish lineage to jesus the son of god.. he has never had any dealings with any other people`s or nation isn`t that some form of favouritism ?
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peacefulpete
Quote mining aside Sea Breeze. No one I know challenges that early Christians believed either they themselves or others had had a religious/numinous experience. Every religion involves dreams/visions/ uncanny coincidence/ emotional epiphanies or some such impactful experience. Even those who hold the Jesus Myth position likewise assume that someone at some early point was convinced they had experienced a vision or communication with a spirit that they understood as Christ. Paul says he had visions, I don't doubt he believed he did. The most popular "Jesus Myth" hypothesis currently is that visions of Christ are the very origins of the movement. The Gospels placing this Christ on earth are secondary to the religions origins. If that hypothesis is correct it in no way suggests people did not believe they had had a religious experience. At the same time saying someone was convinced they had communication with a spirit doesn't go far toward establishing that as historically true.
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The Korah Story Composition
by peacefulpete ina perennial favorite of the wt, and other hierarchal churches, is the infamous korah rebellion tale of numbers 16. the story has been a subject of debate for many many years.
how did korah die?
did his family?
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peacefulpete
No one finds the redaction process interesting? How about Yahweh wanting to kill everyone until Moses reasons with him? Then he kills the families of the men who conspired causing a panic among the rest of the people which pisses off Yahweh who again wants to kill everyone with a plague. Moses runs and gets Aaron who burns incense while standing between the living and the dead to calm Yahweh down. 14,700 died not counting all those he killed by fire and families eaten by the ground. Makes me feel warm all over. How about you?
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Was Jesus the Messiah circumcised ?
by smiddy3 inhas this question ever been raised before by jehovah`s witnesses?
and what`s the significance, if any ?.
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peacefulpete
This canard about the 8th day presaging medical knowledge of vitamin k and clotting agents is the brain child of some religious apologist years ago. Now, It's not hard to believe that after watching hundreds of babies bleeding badly they found that waiting a week was best, however the real reason was so that they would have experienced a Sabbath and made them partners to the pact with Yahweh. In this they were similar to animals dedicated to Yahweh. They had to be 8 days old.
Lev 22:27
When an ox or a sheep or a goat is born, it shall remain under its mother for seven days, and from the eighth day onwards, it shall be accepted as a sacrifice for a fire offering to the Lord.
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“Hanging the earth upon nothing”
by FFGhost infor those of you not up to speed on the latest jw trends, one of the key scriptures the jws are using in field serve-us lately is job 26:7, wherein the writer describes the earth as “hanging upon nothing”.. this text is used to indicate the bible’s “reliability”.
the reasoning goes something like this:.
“see, centuries ago, people thought the world was flat, or was resting on elephants or turtles, or some such nonsense.
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peacefulpete
It's a beautiful expression of faith by someone who looked up and saw only stars. Nothing more nothing less.
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The Korah Story Composition
by peacefulpete ina perennial favorite of the wt, and other hierarchal churches, is the infamous korah rebellion tale of numbers 16. the story has been a subject of debate for many many years.
how did korah die?
did his family?
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peacefulpete
I guess the main message is that power struggles are nothing new. The ancient writers told terrifying tales of divine punishment to those who challenged the established order. Two tales which served this purpose were in turn merged into one and repurposed to meet the needs of the priesthood centuries later. It's not at all surprising then that modern church leaders utilize it and embellish it to secure their own control and authority.
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The Korah Story Composition
by peacefulpete ina perennial favorite of the wt, and other hierarchal churches, is the infamous korah rebellion tale of numbers 16. the story has been a subject of debate for many many years.
how did korah die?
did his family?
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peacefulpete
Ezekiel and Revelations depict idealized restoration of Israel using names that were originally ironically either place names, fictionalized or neighboring clans that at some point identified with the loose confederation of Israel. The inclusion of Reubenites (like Gadites and Manassehites) caused some tension in the narrative as they lived on the wrong side of the Jordan. The group was likely Amorite and their subculture subsumed. IOW the "tribe" no longer existed and stories such as these offered a religious explanation.