i want something different on my next pizza!.
Anders Andersen:
Domino's is probably the worst pizza chain here in the US…I don’t even consider it pizza. It’s to pizza what Donald Trump is to Presidents. :)
I can’t imagine that is all you have in the Netherlands. I think you would be blown away at some of the places over here.
so we've already established that most religions can be classified as high control groups, we can name the wbts, church of scientology, lds, etc.
the list goes on and on.
but are there any religions or organizations that aren't classified as a high control group or aren't as bad as the ones i've just mentioned?
A religion is to a cult, what a government is to a dictatorship.
Not all governments are dictatorships. Even democracies have laws and law enforcement, but it is a matter of degree.
As Steven Hassan said, it is a spectrum.
Not all religions are cults. Most Christian groups are not cults...you can walk away and still talk to your family.
Mainline Protestantism especially is pretty benign. Of course, fundamentalist and charismatic Christian groups have cult characteristics, some more, some less. Some of these groups border on being cult-like, if not cross the line.
trying not to type swearwords as i write this so bare with me.. my little 3yo attends meetings with her jw mum (who doesn't believe watchtower anymore but is stuck in because she relies on her family for help).
my mum (the one who tells people im dead) had a party for her grandchildren.
that's my 4 nieces and 1 nephew aged from 3yo-11yo.
By their fruits you will know them.
i want something different on my next pizza!.
Oh, I should add, I do like a good garlicky white pizza with spinach as well.
i want something different on my next pizza!.
Anders Andersen:
Which American style?
There’s New York, there’s Chicago, Midwest, ect…
There’s brick oven, pan, deep dish, ect…
All of these are vastly different from one another.
i want something different on my next pizza!.
Oh, I forgot to say mushrooms.
i want something different on my next pizza!.
Extra cheese. Always. No matter what else.
I find that usually pizza is best when there are only one or two toppings. Too many do not blend well. If a pizza is good enough, it doesn't need many topping.
But sometimes I like sausage as a sole topping.
Sometimes bacon.
Sometimes a combo of chicken and bacon.
Sometimes tomato slices and fresh basil.
I also love white pizza, no extra toppings.
And I stay away from pizza chains. There are plenty of local places that serve way better pizza.
jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
There was likely much revision in the second century. For instance, in 1 Corinthians 14, it seems the "women be silent" was an interpolation. And Paul never actually wrote 1 Timothy which says the same thing.
Of course, the New Testament is a compilation of books from different Christian groups from the first and second century, each with different theological viewpoints.
But from what Paul and the Christian group he was writing to at Philippi, I think their answer would be found at Philippians 2:9, “Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name.”
Therefore the name above every name is given to Jesus...the one who in verse 6, who had “God’s form” or nature.
No matter whether the LXX with the divine name was used by the New Testament writers or indeed placed the name in their original writings, often passages in the Old Testament that were about YHWH got applied to Jesus. For these writers Jesus was by nature or kind YHWH, while a distinct person from his Father.
The writer of the epistle of John would have agreed. Of course, the writer of Mark would’ve bitterly disagreed. And likely the writer of Matthew and Luke.
Whatever the original form of the writings that became the New Testament and whether the Divine Name was included, or passages like in Philippians were ramped up and altered to reflect high Christology is still speculation and guesswork.
Until someone finds an early NT manuscript with the divine name in it, there is no real proof.
jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
Here is Bart Ehrman's take on the question:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/156150002/bart-ehrman-answers-my-question
has anyone else heard this?
a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?
a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.
In my area, the last two rows were reserved for latecomers,
and in particular, those with small children. Sometimes it was reserved or cordoned off by
attendants.
Of course, most JWs find meetings dull as wall paper and would prefer to be at home or doing something else, or at least, not to have to go to the Kingdom Hall SO often. But they are under fear, obligation and guilt and feel compelled to attend.
There seems a general tendency that most JWs do not like sitting up front. Often, counsel was given from the platform to counter this, because I think many JWs would prefer to sit in back and not feel like they are being watched by everyone sitting behind them. If one has social anxiety, this sense is even more acute.
A DFed person who attends the Kingdom Hall has to endure allot of shame. It is an uphill battle for them to even walk in. I suspect this is so even for those without social anxiety.
Therefore, rather than a rule, it’s a natural consequence for a DFed person to slip in during the song, sit as far back as they can, be as invisible as possible (with exception of the elders to note their attendance), and slip out during the final song.
