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  Watchtower Dishonesty aka Theocratic Warfare

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  i would like to collect as many instances of watchtower dishonesty and pretense as possible.

  here is one from a bulgarian as an example of what i'm looking for.. are jehovah's witnesses disfellowshipped for receiving blood in a hospital?.

  helge fauskanger writes: "if witnesses can’t convince the elders that they are utterly “repentant” for this vampiric lapse of theirs, they will be held to have disassociated themselves from the religion — even if they never said a word about wanting to leave it!

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  Vanderhoven7:

  Get with Terry on the conscientious objector protocols used by the Watchtower during the Vietnam Conflict. Young men were coached by elders not to mention or to deny the fact that they were refusing military service because their religion told them to. They were to claim it was their personally held belief and for no other reason.

  I was once told about 30 years ago that if a baptized Witness enlisted into the military the Watchtower handled it by making an announcement that the individual had "disassociated themselves" rather than being disfellowshipped. The reason is fear that the U.S. government would take action against the Watchtower for subversive propaganda during wartime if they were disfellowshipping Witnesses who decided to join the war effort. This practice is deceitful unless the Witness enlisting actually did submit a letter of disassociation.

  When I was in high school there was a Witness in my congregation who was in his early 20s that joined the U.S. Navy. I promise you that he never submitted a letter of disassociation. It was announced anyways.
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  Why is God's punishment always nonsensical?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  leviticus 10:1-3. .

  the death of nadab and abihu.

  10 aaron’s sons nadab and abihu took their censers, put fire in them and added incense; and they offered unauthorized fire before the lord, contrary to his command.

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  The reason is because the YHWY of the Old Testament is a mythological story character. Zeus, Odin, Ba'al, and YHWH are are just works of fiction. The brain is addicted to story.
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  Is ACTIVISM destroying Christianity itself?

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  in this video (i watched this morning when i woke up) i suddenly discovered something i was only slightly aware ofwhich is bedeviling mainstream christianity and that a different kind of activism is at work.a different sort of "religious" movement than the one ex-jw's engage in.i'd like to get your thoughts on this.

  i'm still thinking about it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gviljk-fnn0&t=616s.

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  ac·tiv·ism

  /ˈaktəˌvizəm/

  Learn to pronounce

  noun

  the policy or action of using vigorous campaigning to bring about political or social change.

  I see in modern times that the change desired is one that the activists attempt on through political change. That is to say, the activists desire the change be imposed through government sanctioned violence. Either change or go to prison or worse.

  That is why activism is failing and will continue to fail. If you cannot change minds there will be no change. The whole idea of government imposed social change on what some refer to as "racism" is one that cannot exist in reality.

  I prefer the approach of bringing positive change as outlined in the essay The Power of the Powerless.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dk9J4trZaI
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  May 2022 Study Watchtower - FAKE prophecy again for JW's

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  may 2022 study watchtower page 6, par.

  5 “satan instigated an attack on the anointed brothers who were taking the lead in the kingdom-preaching work.

  prominent ones among them were the figurative “two witnesses” spoken of as being killed.”.

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  Overlapping Beasts (Colorized, 2022)
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  May 2022 Study Watchtower - FAKE prophecy again for JW's

  by BoogerMan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  may 2022 study watchtower page 6, par.

  5 “satan instigated an attack on the anointed brothers who were taking the lead in the kingdom-preaching work.

  prominent ones among them were the figurative “two witnesses” spoken of as being killed.”.

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  Good question.

  Perhaps it was the League of Nations?

  More importantly, what external source from the Watchtower confirms their claim that the 2 Witnesses of Revelation are members of the Watchtower's board of directors?
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  This good news of the kingdom

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  growing up around the faith, whenever i heard something taught, i'd always think there is a different way of looking at that, probably better.. we always hear "this good news of the kingdom will be preached... " matt 24:14.. so i think, is there more to it than preaching the kingdom?.

  luke 17:21 the kjv and asv says "neither shall they say, lo here!

  or, lo there!

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  The divinity of Jesus was invented after his death if he even existed. When Jesus says "Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you," he meant it. Jesus never said, "I am the son of God." What Jesus said in plain English is "I am divine," and he continued "Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods"'?"
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  Do we really need this many prayers in a day?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there’s no proof that prayers have any effect whatsoever, other than perhaps giving the person who prays a false sense of having done something.

  all claims that prayers have been answered are either anecdotal, fraudulent, delusional or are the result of either pure coincidence or confirmation bias.. how many prayers do you need in a day?.

  you get up and eat breakfast...you pray for another day of life.

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  Prayer is mostly pointless in the Judeo-Christian practice.

  The Lord/God/Jehovah/Jesus is a real, omniscient person who knows the past, present, and future simultaneously. He already knows -

  • What He is going to do
  • What you are going to do
  • What you need
  • What you want

  Even a prayer of thanks is unnecessary as if you are truly grateful He already knows it before you receive your Godly gift and before you appreciate it.

  Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name.

  It was already hallowed.

  Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.

  If He wants it done it is getting done. No prayers required.

  Give us this day our daily bread,

  If you're getting it you're getting it. He decided before you were born whether you were getting it or not.

  and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.

  I've got nothing on this. If you are truly sorry you should voice your apology.

  And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

  He doesn't lead anyone anywhere. That is why it is called "freewill".
  
  
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  100+ Of The Great Canadian Rock Artists Of All Time!

  by Atlantis in

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  i find it refreshing to step away from all that tower crap from time to time!.

  100+ of the greatest canadian rock artists of all time!.

  it is no surprise to see the name "neil young" listed as number 1.. .

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  Alex Lifeson, the guitarist for Rush, has some new solo stuff coming out. I like it.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV-IZRh22mo
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  100+ Of The Great Canadian Rock Artists Of All Time!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i find it refreshing to step away from all that tower crap from time to time!.

  100+ of the greatest canadian rock artists of all time!.

  it is no surprise to see the name "neil young" listed as number 1.. .

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  Rush is #1. Bob & Doug McKenzie are #1.5 as they featured Geddy Lee on their Great White North album.
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  How many of you remember the "Pioneer Shuffle " and the special "time reporting" of pioneers?

  by Foolednomore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i started pioneering in my late teens an remember how slow pioneers would walk to the doors while out in circus.

  also, they would not really talk to anybody at all.

  they would start their time as soon as they got dressed an out the door, while us regular shucks started our time at the first door we knocked at.

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  There are some low rent outdoor apartments near one Kingdom Hall I attended for a long time. Those apartments had these little structures that contained washers and clothes dryers. We would roll by the complex laundromats to drop off an old set of magazines to start our time.

  From there it was off to breakfast before the meeting for field service. That was like a guaranteed 10 hours of field service time a week for mid-week service. That's 40 hours a month!