Posts by ShadesofGrey

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Lord, to whom would we go away to? ... Who is your mediator?

by ShadesofGrey in

i am writing up some things, thinking about making some brochures to distribute to jws.

here is one of the first, as this question is what broke me free.

i am playing with the idea of putting the scriptures and watchtower quotes on one page tracts or even billboards, anyway, here you have it:.

ShadesofGrey

Sorry about the font, it was a copy and past from MS word.

Okay, here is an idea for a sign next to the KH: (or a T-shirt to wear to memorial, HA!)

“There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus.”(1 Timothy 2:5)

Likewise, the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. -- Worldwide Security under the Prince of Peace, page 10

What do you think of this one? Or maybe this on one side and the one Tammy suggested on the other side?

Or

“There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus.”(1 Timothy 2:5)

But the Watchtower says: "Likewise, the Greater Moses, Jesus Christ, is not the Mediator between Jehovah God and all mankind. "-- Worldwide Security under the Prince of Peace, page 10

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Lord, to whom would we go away to? ... Who is your mediator?

by ShadesofGrey in

i am writing up some things, thinking about making some brochures to distribute to jws.

here is one of the first, as this question is what broke me free.

i am playing with the idea of putting the scriptures and watchtower quotes on one page tracts or even billboards, anyway, here you have it:.

ShadesofGrey

For example, the JWs' New Covenant is temporary, lasting roughly 2,000 years. I bet you didn't know that.

I have often wondered about the JW doctrine of the thousand year reign. So what happens after that? They seem to not answer that, which is funny considering how much they dislike any mystery.

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hiya and... i do not really know where to begin... currently a jw... slightly starting to fade... got a girlfriend baptised... i am baptised also... my head is a mess... i do not know what to believe anymore... never really fully trusted elders as it comes to 'leading the flock'... got burned a few times with their ... decisions etc.

read a few articles in here about their alleged false beliefs... do not really know what to do... wondered if any of you felt like that at any point... when something that you trusted and followed most of your life... does not seem to be what you thought it was... .

ShadesofGrey

You are confused, afraid of Satan and you are praying for help. Please read examples of prayer in the Bible. This was such a help to me.

Matthew 6:9-13

Luke 11:2-4

1 Corinthians 1:2

Revelation 22:20

Acts 7:59

Acts 4

I will add my own prayers to yours,

Love, Shades

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Curious about the name "Jesus"

by tec in

my niv has notes at the bottom of pages, regarding other possible meanings and some definitions, etc.. anyway, it says that jesus is the greek form of joshua, which means the lord saves.

would that mean that joshua is the english form of his name?

thanks for your comments,.

ShadesofGrey

That said, if a person has had a name revealed to them as the name for them to pray to and through, then WE must respect that.

:)

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Lord, to whom would we go away to? ... Who is your mediator?

by ShadesofGrey in

i am writing up some things, thinking about making some brochures to distribute to jws.

here is one of the first, as this question is what broke me free.

i am playing with the idea of putting the scriptures and watchtower quotes on one page tracts or even billboards, anyway, here you have it:.

ShadesofGrey

Yes, I was thinking for distribution or signs (there is a church right across the street from the KH!) I would have one page the scripture in red followed by a short WT quote.

It is written now for those already looking.

I will apply your suggestion. Thank you.

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Inspired?

by iamwhoiam in

does anyone know if the wts ever said in print that they were inspired?.

ShadesofGrey

Here is a page I just made:

"The Watchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic." - August 15, 1950 , page 263.

"The brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers. (2 Tim. 3:16) And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18 )" - February 15, 1981, page 19.

Spirit-Directed?

The second question also reminds the candidate of his responsibility to work with Jehovah’s spirit-directed organization.—WT 06 4/1 p. 24-25

There must be agreement among all true Christians, a unified message, if people are to hear what is correct, put genuine faith in the true God and call upon Jehovah’s name with the prospect of being saved. Moreover, one spirit-directed organization must be used in connection with the sending forth of those truthful preachers of the “good news.”—Romans 10:11-15.—WT 84 7/15 10-15

In order to assist us to acknowledge the provision of strength to stand against an archenemy, we might look to the fine spirit-directed counsel that Paul wrote to the Christian congregation—WT 72 3/1

But now the receipt by the Antioch congregation of a spirit-directed letter, coupled with this visit of the two “prophets,” had settled the matter. The congregation had reason to rejoice.—Acts 15:2, 22-31.—WT 79 2/15

JEHOVAH’S servants must pay attention to the spirit-directed words of Jesus Christ to the seven congregations named in the Bible book of Revelation.—WT 03 5/15 15-20

Reap Blessings Through Jehovah’s Spirit Guided King, public discourse to be delivered at the 2008/2009 “Guided by God’s Spirit” District Convention -- back cover Awake! May 2008

Doesn't their double talk make you sick?

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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

ShadesofGrey

Thank you Gladiator.

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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

ShadesofGrey

Being able to replicate the writing style of someone to whom God spoke does not mean that the Spirit was in the words. Even the prophets and Bible writers said some wrong things on their own... but not when God said it.

You don't know the Most Holy One of Israel, N?

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Will only "incorrigibly wicked" people be destroyed at Armageddon?

by poor places in

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friends

in a recent talk that i heard, a brother tried to comfort those whose family members have left jehovah's witnesses.

he did so by saying that only "incorrigibly wicked" people will be destroyed at armageddon.

i found his line of reasoning refreshing, especially in comparison with the usual fear-mongering in wt publications.

ShadesofGrey

I am sorry, dear Tammy, that I wasn't clear. The questions were to get people thinking.

R ead about the Great Tribulation in Luke and Revelation, then read Luke chapter 12 and 13 and the parellel accounts in the other gospels and ask the Lord for wisdom.

42 The Lord answered, “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? 43 It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. 44 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 45 But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the other servants, both men and women, and to eat and drink and get drunk. 46 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers.

47 “The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. 48 But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.

28 “There will be weeping there, and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God, but you yourselves thrown out. 29 People will come from east and west and north and south, and will take their places at the feast in the kingdom of God. 30 Indeed there are those who are last who will be first, and first who will be last.”

Some things I wonder: Who is last? Why? What are they doing while they wait? Last to get where? So where do they end up?

I am sorry, dear Tammy, that I wasn't clear. The questions were to get people thinking.

Many Christians believe that there are two eventualities at judgment, one of those being eternal torment. The weeping and the gnashing of the teeth are sometimes used to prove this idea of hell. But look! Those weeping and gnashing their teeth are last to take their place at the feast. They must not stay in hell forever. Compare this to the example of the slaves. Some get beaten with few strokes, some with many, and others get the worst punishment possible (compare to the account in Matthew). So the one beaten with few strokes, does he then finish taking his punishment/discipline and go to sit at the table (last) in the kingdom of God?

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An Old Argument.... does it hold water?

by AK - Jeff in

estimates range from 4 million to 15 million children die from starvation each year on this planet.

that's between 500 and 1700 children a day, depending on what numbers you accept.

still, no matter which numbers you use, doesn't this make you arrive at one of the following conclusions?.

ShadesofGrey

It's sounds insulting, but it's prose with spirit.

Now, I am not going to say that the Holy Spirit said anything unless He said it to me. Seems dangerous, IMO.

I was thinking about that insulting volley of Aguest's and I did think of one thing possibly: Why didn't the JW elder turned apostate help more people? Because in the end it wouldn't have done any good, and he knew that without trying? Just something to think about.