uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Jana: When I'm speaking on the channel it's because I want to be helpful to survivors like myself.
Imagine you're a recovering alcoholic and you wish to help others survive their alcoholism too. Would you agree to appear on a show where the host unrepentantly admits to alcohol fueled binges every few months? He argues that there's nothing wrong with it.
C'mon Jana, you know your position is untenable.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Elena: If you believe evolution then some go off the rails like Lloyd did as there is no moral compass anymore and this just brings results that Lloyd has - suicidal extreme unhappiness having messed up everything and anyone in your lifeYou're as bad as the cult. How on earth does an understanding of evolution equate to the lack of a moral compass. That's not a rhetorical question, I'd like an answer.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Jana: wouldn't you rather there be someone there to bring a sensitivity to the topic? To bring a lived experience to the topic?
Jana, you must have expected some pushback when you decided to post here but I hope you stick around and engage with us for a while longer.
Could you explain how you perceive Lloyds 'sensitivity' as regards CSA victims and just what do you mean about his 'lived experience'?
I just cannot fathom how a man who regularly supported the abuse of young women and girls by paying for their bodies can be endorsed as an advocate for abuse victims by anyone with a conscience.
It's never too late to reassess your position, I hope you do.
dominic enyart exposes watchtower deception regarding their demonization of the cross.
information packed.
interesting take on paganism as well.
When saving work in a computer program like Word the save icon is an image of a floppy disk š¾. No-one uses floppy disks anymore but use of the icon persists, to change it might actually cause confusion.
Just because use of the Greek word stauros persisted when referring to crucifixions doesn't mean that the Romans hadn't upgraded their crucifixion method.
Not that any of this really matters.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Ooh! Badge of honour.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
I wonder if he's been dropped? I no longer see LE listed in the upcoming Live Streams.
uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
Pimopaul: Wonder if this Christian Apologist Knows Lloyd's History?
I placed a link in the comments to lloydevans.info but it was removed pretty quickly.
Hopefully he's at least taking the time to read up but who knows.
the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lieĀ or it is impossible for god to lie.
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so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
Lakes of fire, first resurrections, second deaths? I abandon you to your mumbo-jumbo.
I don't know what I expected really. When Christians defend God's killing of innocent children they're hardly going to flinch at hiding his lies.
throughout watchtower history dates have been a problem.
the usual solution for failed prophetic dates has been to kick the can down the road.
this needs to be done with 1914. the generation that will never pass away is now 110 years old and therefore is past its useful life span.
Scholar: The fact of the matter is that not one of these lines of evidence is based on the Bible so this corpus of so-called lines of evidence belongs in the trash can.
Pure cognitive bias.
the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lieĀ or it is impossible for god to lie.
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so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
How long does it take to eat a piece of fruit?
Adam and Eve had no expectation of living forever so where's the punishment if the death sentence is imposed at the very end of their lives when they would have died anyway?
Please answer for yourselves, don't hide behind links to someone else's apologetics.
