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  Did Jesus have a pre-existence or was he fully human, begotten at his human birth.

  by gavindlt in

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  so when was jesus begotten.

  was he truly and wholly fully human.

  did he exist in two states, part human part god.

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  nicolaou

  Do you really need to be told how babies are made? Mary had sex with someone and 9 months later Jesus was born. He was a man like any other.
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  God cannot lie

  by psyco in

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  the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.

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  so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.

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  nicolaou

  Ah, that old chestnut. You'll be claiming I'm taking things out of context next.
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  God cannot lie

  by psyco in

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  the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.

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  so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.

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  It actually gets worse for believers. Not only is God responsible for the first lie recorded in the Bible - which I guess makes him the 'father of the lie' - but the devil, Satan himself, consistently told the truth.

  Don't believe me? Reread Genesis.
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  God cannot lie

  by psyco in

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  2. bible

  the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.

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  so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.

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  nicolaou

  tenyearsafter: the argument could be made that Adam did die within a creative day. Another view is he died the moment he sinned, because prior to that he had everlasting life. Once he sinned, he was dying. All very metaphorical!

  I've heard all these justifications and excuses offered for sure but ultimately they are simply attempts to get around the plain fact that Adam and Eve did not die on the day they ate from the tree as God had said they would.

  Think of it this way. You are a teenager whose mother is suffering from a particularly virulent form of cancer, all treatments have failed and you have been told she has less than a month to live. However, there is hope! A pioneering oncologist promises you, that if your mother agrees to an experimental new treatment she positively “will not die.”

  You convince your still young but dying mother that this is her best hope. With nothing to lose she agrees to the treatment and lives on for another forty years! She’s with you at your graduation and on your wedding day. She’s a grandmother to your children and is even with you to enjoy a few years of your retirement. Finally, at a fair age in her mid eighties, your mother passes away. Would it be reasonable of you to label as a liar the oncologist who promised you four decades earlier that your mother would “not die”? After all, your aged mother is indeed now dead.

  Preposterous isn’t it

  At this point the you may be jumping up and down in protest and claiming that my analogy doesn’t fit. ‘But Adam and Eve were perfect’ you say. ‘They would have lived forever if they’d only been obedient.’ Oh really? Look again at the timeline of Genesis, when is everlasting life ever promised to that innocent couple in the Garden of Eden? It isn’t. There is nothing to indicate that Adam and Eve had any hope or knowledge that they might live forever. In fact, it appears to have been something deliberately denied to and kept hidden from them.

  God lied.

  
  
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  God cannot lie

  by psyco in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.

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  so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.

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  nicolaou

  And Jehovah God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

  Genesis 2:16,17 - American Standard Version
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  God cannot lie

  by psyco in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.

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  so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.

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  nicolaou

  Read Genesis, God told the very first lie.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  nicolaou

  With Kim's kind permission I've posted her documents along with a few explanatory paragraphs by Kim herself on the LE info blog.
  
  Read (and share): https://lloydevans.info/all-categories/evans-history/m7-update

  Kim, I've posted the documents in the order I received them. If it matters at all I can easily rearrange the order, just let me know.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  nicolaou

  Or maybe they can be hosted at lloydevans.info.

  They certainly can. If anyone wants to PM me a link to the documents I'll host them.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  ozziepost: Guilt? In some way he felt the need to confess.

  I doubt that VERY much. https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/understanding-narcissism/202203/do-narcissists-feel-guilty-about-abusing-loved-ones?amp
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  Are Atheists Hypocritical in Celebrating Christmas?

  by Sea Breeze in

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  richard dawkins revealed that he celebrates christmas on radio four's today programme.. here is is quoted as saying: .

  'i am perfectly happy on christmas day to say merry christmas to everybody,' dawkins said.

  'i might sing christmas carols - once i was privileged to be invited to kings college, cambridge, for their christmas carols and loved it.

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  Also l would not expect a Sikh or Hindu to attend a Christian service

  See how divisive religion is? I just don't understand this attitude. I attended the funeral of a colleague last month, the service was in a Catholic church and was full of prayers, incense and the sprinkling of holy water.

  Ordinarily I'd remark on the irrational nature of this superstitious mumbo-jumbo but it was important to my friend and her family and I could feel my conscience chiding me for even thinking about it during everyone's grief.

  It doesn't matter that I'm not Christian, I was there for my friend. I would've attended if I'd been Sikh or Hindu too.