If Jesus isn't the one true god, how do we interpret the passages where he might have insinuated this? If he claimed it, how do we account for the inaccuracy of the claim?
Maybe he was just nuts.
i know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.
but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.
scripture says he's the creator.
If Jesus isn't the one true god, how do we interpret the passages where he might have insinuated this? If he claimed it, how do we account for the inaccuracy of the claim?
Maybe he was just nuts.
i know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.
but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.
scripture says he's the creator.
This is nothing other than an argument from incredulity, sometimes called the divine fallacy. Sea Breeze says a proposition must be false simply because it goes against his personal beliefs, or perhaps that it's just too difficult to imagine or understand.
Much easier (and lazier) to say "God did it".
The truth is that some things really are difficult to understand, even unknown at this point - like the origin of life. It's perfectly okay to admit to not knowing something. That's just being humble in the face of the unknown. Arrogance shows itself in believers like Sea Breeze who claim to have the answers but NEVER provide the evidence.
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Jana: When I'm speaking on the channel it's because I want to be helpful to survivors like myself.
Imagine you're a recovering alcoholic and you wish to help others survive their alcoholism too. Would you agree to appear on a show where the host unrepentantly admits to alcohol fueled binges every few months? He argues that there's nothing wrong with it.
C'mon Jana, you know your position is untenable.
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Elena: If you believe evolution then some go off the rails like Lloyd did as there is no moral compass anymore and this just brings results that Lloyd has - suicidal extreme unhappiness having messed up everything and anyone in your lifeYou're as bad as the cult. How on earth does an understanding of evolution equate to the lack of a moral compass. That's not a rhetorical question, I'd like an answer.
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Jana: wouldn't you rather there be someone there to bring a sensitivity to the topic? To bring a lived experience to the topic?
Jana, you must have expected some pushback when you decided to post here but I hope you stick around and engage with us for a while longer.
Could you explain how you perceive Lloyds 'sensitivity' as regards CSA victims and just what do you mean about his 'lived experience'?
I just cannot fathom how a man who regularly supported the abuse of young women and girls by paying for their bodies can be endorsed as an advocate for abuse victims by anyone with a conscience.
It's never too late to reassess your position, I hope you do.
dominic enyart exposes watchtower deception regarding their demonization of the cross.
information packed.
interesting take on paganism as well.
When saving work in a computer program like Word the save icon is an image of a floppy disk 💾. No-one uses floppy disks anymore but use of the icon persists, to change it might actually cause confusion.
Just because use of the Greek word stauros persisted when referring to crucifixions doesn't mean that the Romans hadn't upgraded their crucifixion method.
Not that any of this really matters.
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Ooh! Badge of honour.
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I wonder if he's been dropped? I no longer see LE listed in the upcoming Live Streams.
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Pimopaul: Wonder if this Christian Apologist Knows Lloyd's History?
I placed a link in the comments to lloydevans.info but it was removed pretty quickly.
Hopefully he's at least taking the time to read up but who knows.
the bible does not say that god does not want to lie, but that he cannot lie or it is impossible for god to lie.
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so, if god cannot lie, for what purpose and why did he create creatures (satan, demons, humans) who can lie?.
Lakes of fire, first resurrections, second deaths? I abandon you to your mumbo-jumbo.
I don't know what I expected really. When Christians defend God's killing of innocent children they're hardly going to flinch at hiding his lies.