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  Some Watchtower growth projection numbers (5 scenarios)

  by Saintbertholdt in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've been doing some watchtower membership growth projections.

  the best, worst and most lightly future scenarios.

  i've used the worlds population as a barometer of future watchtower growth.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  The JWs are growing in some third world countries at a much higher rate than in the Western countries. What will happen in time is a movement away from the U.S. to other parts of the world. The problem is that there is little or no money there and it becomes an issue of financing rather than numbers of adherents. The WT faces the problem of trying to finance the world evangelizing while their traditional breadbasket (US primarily) is drying up.
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  Angelo Catanzaro

  by Room 215 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i recently heard angelo catanzaro, a rather prominent figure in the organization .. a long-time district overseer and a favorite of knorr's, died recently.

  there was some indication that he and his wife figured out ttatt in their latter years and turned "apostate"... .

  does anyone out there know what happened to them?

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I remember the name Catanzaro as a CO in the Chicago area in the Sixties. That being fifty years ago, it seems likely that there have probably been various COs or DOs of that name.
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  JW Org Flags at R.C.

  by ToesUp in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  photo was posted on jw-archive.

  j.w.org flags flying at the 2015 r.c.

  in fribourg, switzerland..

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  Words fail me. I can't imagine what they are thinking.
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  Rutherfords influence on Church of God (7th Day) and Sacred Name Movement

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sacred_name_movementthe sacred name movement arose in the early 20th century out of the church of god (seventh day) movement, following on the preaching and ideas of joseph franklin rutherford who founded jehovah's witnesses in 1931 based on his belief in the importance of the hebrew name of god.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  I would need some verification of this and suggest that the Wikipedia article may have the facts incorrect. I have a copy of Melton's Encylopedia 1991 version which does not mention Rutherford's name in association with any of the Sacred Name movements. There are definitely some similarities with the Watchtower movement, but the direct connection needs further support.
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  2015 Regional Conventions Baptisms

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since this is the first weekend of rcs, anyone going that can give estimates of how many are getting baptized, how many appeared about that were jw youth, and what attendance figure is at these rcs?.

  i know u.s. baptisms are declining.

  can any keep a running report?

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  19 baptized out of 6500 attendance... Second hand report from Dayton, Ohio
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  The incredibly white NAACP leader

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is a bizarre story.. there is a woman who is the local leader of the naacp who is obviously trying to mislead people into believing she is black who is actually white.

  very white.. she obviously gets a tan regularly but looks more orange.

  yes, orange really is the new black!.

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  In some circles ( Native American for instance) the person can claim to be part of the identity if they are as little as 1/16 of that ethnicity. Maybe this lady is using similar reasoning.
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  Did Jason B Dunn say the "New World Translation is the most accurate translation there is?" Why make a new Bible than?

  by MagicMItchJensen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the circuit overseer mentioned something about the nwt being the most accurate translation according to professor jason b dunn, i heard this nonsense before but never really dug deep in to this topic because non of us really had a choice as jws but to accept all their random musing of our uneducated leaders as factual.

  1. if the new world translation was the picture perfect translation of all the bibles and we went door to door telling everyone we had the "most honest bible", why did they change it to a paraphrased version?

  what success have you had getting jehovah's witnesses to address why they tinkered with the new world translation, it was suppose to be the best translation and now it's turned in to a very loose paraphrased version.

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  I have heard that his book uses a selected number of verses which are used as test cases for doctrinal bias. If that is so, could someone who has the book list what verses were used? And how they were selected?
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  1 Kings 6:31, Insight from archeology, other translations and the good ole NWT

  by kepler in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  call this a review of a recent article i noticed in the biblical archeological review, "the puzzling doorways of solomon's temple" by madeleine mumcuoglu and yosef garfinkel, bar july/august 2015, pp.

  this is not something that i had been waiting with baited breath to find out about, but sometimes there is a serendipity effect when you are idly reading something over breakfast.. the authors, field archeologists working at the site khirbet qelyala in israel, based on evidence from their dig site, believe they have an explanation for a strange reference in 1 kings 6:31. essentially, according to many current translations,.

  "the bible tells us that the doors of the inner shrine of solomon's temple had five mezuzot (singular mezuzah) [and] whatever they were the bible is not referring to the little parchment texts in a case on the doorposts of jewish houses that are called mezuzot.

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  It's good to see that there is someone besides me who gets BAR. Been a subscriber for years, always an interesting read.

  The NWT seems to be the least clear of the ones given for the selected verse.

  The original NWT OLd Testament was so literal at times as to be unreadable. The NWT of 2013 does include an explanatory footnote for that verse
  
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  baptism regional Convention

  by antes8080 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello friends during the weekend i was in the san diego regional convention and the number of baptisim was way down.. there were 51 who got baptise thats the lowest number i ever seen, the attendance was 14,000 plus .

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  0.36% of attendance is on the low side compared to recent years ( last years International was an exception) There have been similar threads a couple of years ago and the baptisms were running about 0.5% of attendance. Back in the '74-75 heyday it was about 2% of the attendance.
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  Residence fire damages building at Bethel in Congo (Africa)

  by dropoffyourkeylee in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  word is there was a fire yesterday at a residence building at congo bethel in africa.

  lots of damage, a hundred or so out of a place to stay.

  no one injured.

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  dropoffyourkeylee

  The WT is usually self-insured, at least in the US, so there would be no insurance to make a claim.