dropoffyourkeylee

Joined

• started 77 topics
• posted 2,404 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by dropoffyourkeylee

• 
  73

  Rutherford's Paradise - Film Footage of Beth Sarim

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just added this to my youtube channel, jwstruggle.

  i know that we have some resident authorities on the history around jf rutherford and i am anxious to see what they make of it.

  (leolaia i'm talking to you lol!).

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dropoffyourkeylee

  Very interesting footage. Thanks for posting it, it's a shame the audio is missing.

  My take:

  Part of the video is casual (the parts of Rutherford drinking, apparently a little loopy, clowning around). Other parts appear more staged, and even professional enough to have been intended as a propoganda film (bounteous harvest, waving flowers, Rutherford working the fields like a 19th century farmer) Even in 1939 many farmers were using tractors, and they obviously had trucks, bulldozers, etc at the building of Beth Sarim. The footage of him farming must be staged for some reason; I really doubt he ever did farming like that in real life. So I would conclude that the original (for that portion of the video) was accompanied by narration with the typical WT jargon about the Earth's harvest in New World, etc. Nevertheless, an invaluable contribution to our perception of Rutherford the man.... Thanks.
• 
  6

  Full 2013 Conti and Simons interview now available on YouTube

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi folks.

  as some of you may remember, 7 months ago i posted a thread announcing a special interview with candace conti and rick simons for which the answers were to be submitted by jwn posters.. here is the original thread.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/child-abuse/243087/1/calling-all-posters-what-are-your-questions-for-candace-conti-rick-simons-and-kelly-kraetsch.

  the resulting interview was filmed on 10th february 2013 in oakland, california, and the first two videos of the interview were released in march.. i've finally had the opportunity to sit down and put the remaining two videos together, and these have been uploaded to youtube today.. we now have all four interview videos on youtube as follows.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhvfefpig4a.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dropoffyourkeylee

  Thanks Cedar for posting these videos. I just spent the last hour watching them. Thank you Rick and Conti, if you view these responses..... sorry, it is emotional. You two are great inspiration to all who have been abused in one way or another by the Watchtower or any other organization that has children entrusted to its care.
• 
  31

  I can't find any bibles...seems to be a shortage...

  by Legacy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  howdy,.

  i have been trying to get 4 bibles for some folks i know who use to be jw's...not sure if they are returning but i'll do my part...can anyone shed some light or let me know where i can call to get bibles....patterson says there is a shortage, i've asked around to different halls in different states.. could it be because of jw.org ?.

  take care,.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dropoffyourkeylee

  I heard that it is only the English translation of the NWT which is unavailable, and the non-English languages are still available. If all JWs would clean out their attics and closets and bring in all those Green Bibles, there wouldn't be any shortage at all. Maybe we should start a JW ministry to collect old NWTs, redistribute to people who do not have one.
• 
  56

  Another non-JW reacts to Sparlock video

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-ssv2nh0rc.

  and two weeks ago i highlighted another video where sparlock helped an ex-mormon.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmesmlhydru.

  though it still depresses me to think of all the young ones (including my own relatives) falling under the influence of this dangerous piece of propaganda, it's at least some small comfort that the sparlock video is backfiring so dramatically among thinking non-jws.. .

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dropoffyourkeylee

  I am glad that the WT society has started putting out videos like the Caleb/Caleb's mom series. They really show the world how stupid they are. The great part is that putting it on the internet is permanent. There will always be copies out there, for all to see whenever they want. The society is really making themselves look stupid. I am cheering!
• 
  9

  The lonely skull of a wandering European, found at Taree, NSW

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  this is believed to be the skull of a white (european) person, who should not have been where the skull was found.

  that's because, australians generally want to believe that the first europeans to live in australia came after captain cook.

  that view, is likely to be a bit of jingoistic rubbish, but it serves the cause of white nationalism.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dropoffyourkeylee

  thanks for posting this, as I for one find it interesting whenever we find out something they taught us in history books was wrong. However, it is not surprising to me that there would have been individual Europeans in Australia in the 1650's. After all there were European vessels through the Spice Islands all thru the 1500's and possibly the Arab traders were around there before that. Any shipwreck/ runaway sailor/ or even fathering a child could have resulted in the person described.
• 
  36

  The Pecking Order Of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they don't realize it but there is a pecking order.

  you especially see it when the circuit overseer comes by.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dropoffyourkeylee

  I thought the Nethanim, Nethenim, however it is spelled, was the non-anointed committee members
• 
  36

  The Pecking Order Of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  they don't realize it but there is a pecking order.

  you especially see it when the circuit overseer comes by.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dropoffyourkeylee

  Here are a few others, in no particular order:

  disfellowshipped/disassociated

  marked

  missionary

  graduate of MTS or Christian Couples
• 
  38

  Old out-of-touch JWs using antiquated terms

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ever notice how completely out of touch some (most?

  ) public speakers are?.

  last week we had a speaker ramble on for fully 1/3, maybe 1/2, of his 30 minute talk on the evils of "rap music".. i don't believe the term "rap music" has been uttered by anyone under the age of 40 for at least 20-25 years.. this week we got another "older gentleman" warning us about the pervasive dangers of "internet chat rooms".. again - didn't "chat rooms" die out about the same time as dialing up to connect to aol?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dropoffyourkeylee

  Along these lines, the NWT is spoken of as being a 'modern day language' Bible, but the fact is that the language is out-dated. It is English usage written in the 1950's, and was old-fashioned then, as it was translated by old men at that time who grew up in the 1890-1930 time period. Until the NWT is updated, we will continue -keep on- hearing words like fornication and manifestation, etc. At least in English, but I don't know how the other language NWTs read.
• 
  73

  DID YOU KNOW the latest Brooklyn sell-offs will take total Watchtower earnings to $804 MILLION since 2004?

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks.

  i apologize if this is old news to some, but it's news to me.. i stumbled on a comprehensive list of all the sold properties on wikipedia on this link... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/watch_tower_bible_and_tract_society_of_pennsylvania#brooklyn_property_sales.

  it's just a mind-boggling amount of money, and useful information to have handy when talking to witness relatives.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dropoffyourkeylee
• 
  73

  DID YOU KNOW the latest Brooklyn sell-offs will take total Watchtower earnings to $804 MILLION since 2004?

  by cedars in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi folks.

  i apologize if this is old news to some, but it's news to me.. i stumbled on a comprehensive list of all the sold properties on wikipedia on this link... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/watch_tower_bible_and_tract_society_of_pennsylvania#brooklyn_property_sales.

  it's just a mind-boggling amount of money, and useful information to have handy when talking to witness relatives.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  dropoffyourkeylee