Posts by Ucantnome

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Is my marriage worth saving?

by sacdfan in

long story - will make it short - i was a jw for 4 years.

hy husband took to it straigt away and has been a jw for 20 years - we were both converted by one of his workmates.

our 4 kids were all baptised jws and thankfully 3 escaped (2 disfellowshipped, one fading) - so my eldest son is still in with his dad.

Ucantnome

Djeggnog,

No I don't think I was off topic. What prompted my post was this from you.

"@sacdfan has been one of Jehovah's Witnesses for four years and yet she's thinking that reserving a seat at "the table of demons" could possibly save her marriage."

which I thought was possibly in response to this in the original post by sacdfan (I could be mistaken)

"I feel angry that we can't study the Bible together - why can't we go to a non-denominational service - if you can't worship together with your partner it is very serious to me. We can't even pray together."

I also have close relatives who believe what the apostle said and consider themselves christian one is studying to be a doctor of theology and so your comment "reserving a seat at "the table of demons" moved me to make my post.

I do not believe it necessary to preach what JW's preach. Although I think they feel it is necessary for salvation.

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Is my marriage worth saving?

by sacdfan in

long story - will make it short - i was a jw for 4 years.

hy husband took to it straigt away and has been a jw for 20 years - we were both converted by one of his workmates.

our 4 kids were all baptised jws and thankfully 3 escaped (2 disfellowshipped, one fading) - so my eldest son is still in with his dad.

Ucantnome

Just a thought on the Good news. The Apostle Paul said this.

The Resurrection of Christ

1 Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand.

2 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.

3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures,

4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,

5 and that he appeared to Peter, and then to the Twelve.

6 After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep.

7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles,

8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born. (1 Cor. 15:1-8 NIV)

He also said this.

No Other Gospel

6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse! 9 As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let them be under God’s curse!

(Gal 1:8)

In the book Jehovah's Witnesses Proclaimers of God's Kingdom on page 119 "A real milestone was reached, therefore, in 1925 when The Watchtower of March 1 featured the article "Birth of the Nation." It presented an eye-opening study of Revelation chapter 12. The article set forth evidence that the Messianic Kingdom had been born-established -in 1914, that Christ had then begun ro rule on his heavenly throne, and that thereafter Satan had been hurled from heaven down to the vicinity of the earth. This was the good news that was to be proclaimed." This established kingdom also includes the beginning of the resurrection to heaven shortly after 1914 as the144,000 make up the kingdom. Further down on the same page "The good news of God's Kingdom continues to be central to the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses. Since the issue of March 1, 1939 their principal magazine, now published in over 110 languages, has been borne the title The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah's Kingdom." I think that this is different to the Good News that the apostle was preaching but maybe I'm wrong.

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I don't believe the Bible is Inspired of god - Why do you / don't you?

by cantleave in

many of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.

i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.

my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.

Ucantnome

You thus might want to reconsider your assertion...

No.

I'm not very good at writing my posts and I've probably not been clear.

As for God being stronger. (Whatever he allowed his adversary to do to his chosen people) His prophecy of the seed was fulfilled and the fact that I'm a christian proves it. At least to me.

I've promised my wife I wont be posting on this site for a while.

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I don't believe the Bible is Inspired of god - Why do you / don't you?

by cantleave in

many of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.

i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.

my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.

Ucantnome

my personal view at the moment is kind of like this.

God gives you what you need to believe.

If you ask and keep asking he will give. The trouble with that is it might not be answered in the way you hoped.

No doubt I am wrong in my view. lol. and someone will tell me.

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I don't believe the Bible is Inspired of god - Why do you / don't you?

by cantleave in

many of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.

i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.

my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.

Ucantnome

Cantleave, Exodus 7 is an interesting account.

" 8 The LORD said to Moses and Aaron, 9 “When Pharaoh says to you, ‘Perform a miracle,’ then say to Aaron, ‘Take your staff and throw it down before Pharaoh,’ and it will become a snake.”

10 So Moses and Aaron went to Pharaoh and did just as the LORD commanded. Aaron threw his staff down in front of Pharaoh and his officials, and it became a snake. 11 Pharaoh then summoned wise men and sorcerers, and the Egyptian magicians also did the same things by their secret arts: 12 Each one threw down his staff and it became a snake. But Aaron’s staff swallowed up their staffs. 13 Yet Pharaoh’s heart became hard and he would not listen to them, just as the LORD had said." (NIV)

The God I serve has shown himself to be stronger than the another god mentioned in the Bible. I need not look any further. I can't prove this to you of course but it underpins my faith. Once Moses found the burning bush he didnt look for another. Not all Gods are the same as Pharoah found out. Man makes many gods, including himself.

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I don't believe the Bible is Inspired of god - Why do you / don't you?

by cantleave in

many of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.

i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.

my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.

Ucantnome

Ucantnome, I hope I have not hurt you or made you feel bad, that was not my intention at all, indeed ,as we are strangers ,my comments are not a personal attack on you.

Thank you Phizzy.

No you nor anyone else on this site makes me feel bad and I know I can post things that probably read differently to how I mean them.

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I don't believe the Bible is Inspired of god - Why do you / don't you?

by cantleave in

many of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.

i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.

my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.

Ucantnome

I didnt sleep Wednesday night. It is probably better that I dont post on this site. Nothing to do with the people on it. Although I will probably find it difficult not too.

Designs.

Thank you. The meetings for me were very stressful. So was going to the bother's for dinner. If I went to someones house for dinner or some social activity I wouldn't sleep. The bookstudy was the worst. I finally gave up going.

Being on the school was hell.

Cantleave.

I've always found Rum helps

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I don't believe the Bible is Inspired of god - Why do you / don't you?

by cantleave in

many of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.

i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.

my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.

Ucantnome

Phizzy there are other things that do not permit me to comment further and although you or others may see it as a cop-out that is how it will have to be.

I feel a need to clarify this statement.

When I posted this statement (Post 104)

"I said this. This is what i meant. I have hope based on faith. Strong faith. Faith is a fruitage of the spirit. The evidence in my life. I have this because I believe in Christ who is God's means of saving us. God's eternal purpose, his divine plan of the ages. I first learnt of this plan from the Bible hence it is inspired."

It was the early hours of the morning. I hadn't slept. What I posted churns over and over in my head and I had a need to post this explanation to my previous post.

For some years I had bad anxiety attacks. Often they started in the night. Very dark thoughts. I learnt to stop them. I could feel them coming. It was like waiting on the underground station and the breeze of the approaching train lets you know it comes. Then in was a fight to stop them. Or else I was going to be super cold, shaking and feeling suicidal.

Posting on this site for me is stressful and I know my limitations.

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I don't believe the Bible is Inspired of god - Why do you / don't you?

by cantleave in

many of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.

i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.

my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.

Ucantnome

And, if you do not feel that the faith of other religions is as valid as yours, you must have reasons for that position, if you feel as I do, that their faith is just as valid as yours, then say so, what is the problem ?

I feel explaining the validity of someone else's faith or the reason's I may or may not view their faith as valid is something I do not feel comfortable doing.

Phizzy there are other things that do not permit me to comment further and although you or others may see it as a cop-out that is how it will have to be.

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I don't believe the Bible is Inspired of god - Why do you / don't you?

by cantleave in

many of you may know that i was brought up a witness and stayed in until the age of 42, even reaching the dizzy heights of being a congregation elder.

i was unusual in that, even as a witness i studied to degree level, on a part time basis, sponsored by my employer.

my first was in chemistry and my masters is in business administration.

Ucantnome

Phizzy

If you do that we say "we decline to give any of your opinions respect" they do not deserve it.

I really don't care Phizzy what you do or think.

A little while back there was an article in the Watchtower and due to certain words used it was taken to the police I understood.

I feel one needs to be careful when talking of other people's faith when they (me) have little knowledge of it due to the laws in this country. If Phizzy you feel differently ok

I also feel that the subject is not proveable however I believe the bible to be inspired.