I went after I was baptized in 1984. It was a factory.
Silly me, I expected something spiritually uplifting. Surprising now in retrospect it took me 20 years to figure out that the WTBTS is not all about what they say they are.
how many of you have ever visited one of the branch offices or world headquarters of jehovah's witnesses?
i was an active witness for nearly thirty years and was associated with the cult for more than thirty-five before finally walking away for good last year.
during all those years i never made a trip to brooklyn bethel.
I went after I was baptized in 1984. It was a factory.
Silly me, I expected something spiritually uplifting. Surprising now in retrospect it took me 20 years to figure out that the WTBTS is not all about what they say they are.
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my mom cant stop talking about this brother, vic gundotra.
@wha happened? "his education gave him a leg up towards that lifestyle"
Yeah, but doing something verboten by the bOrg.
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my mom cant stop talking about this brother, vic gundotra.
So an inattentive driver is now an example of a "good" witness?!?
My guess is he is handsome, charming and your mother is un-married or in a bad marriage.
the recent & surprising developments in the uk and australia got me thinking..... the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is nothing if not arrogant.
they consider themselves "god's channel of communication", stopping just short of claiming divine inspiration.
they believe that they and they alone are the masters of "christ's belongings" and are answerable only to him.. the watchtower society's legal department carefully crafts gb decisions so as not to put the watchtower society's assets or prestige as risk.
The GB has no mechanism to communicate with the FDS. They don't even know WHO or WHERE they are!!!
"We thus have no way of knowing the exact number of anointed ones on earth; nor do we need to know. The Governing Body does not keep a list of all partakers, for it does not maintain a global network of anointed ones." - Question From Readers, w2011 8/15 p. 22
does anyone have a listing of watchtower titles?
godskingdomwhatisit?whenwillitcome?.
howcanyoufindrealpeaceofmind?.
Why?
you would think being disfellowshipped is like being fired from a job and being dissassociated is like quitting a job...is this the correct understanding?.
as much as i have been searching for the answer to this question in the later articles, i can't really find a concrete answer.
but being an ms and raised in "the truth", i was always brought up to feel like if someone disassociates themself, they are automatically labeled an apostate.
The only real difference is in the spelling of the words, well that and what finallysomepride said
you would think being disfellowshipped is like being fired from a job and being dissassociated is like quitting a job...is this the correct understanding?.
as much as i have been searching for the answer to this question in the later articles, i can't really find a concrete answer.
but being an ms and raised in "the truth", i was always brought up to feel like if someone disassociates themself, they are automatically labeled an apostate.
Thanks Blondie, you are of course correct ... but that's still assuming he doesn't want a divorce!
you would think being disfellowshipped is like being fired from a job and being dissassociated is like quitting a job...is this the correct understanding?.
as much as i have been searching for the answer to this question in the later articles, i can't really find a concrete answer.
but being an ms and raised in "the truth", i was always brought up to feel like if someone disassociates themself, they are automatically labeled an apostate.
Blondie, thanks for providing the WT references for my unsourced, unreferenced assertion.
I guess after being a JW for so long, I didn't feel it was necessary to correctly cite my source! ... lol
you would think being disfellowshipped is like being fired from a job and being dissassociated is like quitting a job...is this the correct understanding?.
as much as i have been searching for the answer to this question in the later articles, i can't really find a concrete answer.
but being an ms and raised in "the truth", i was always brought up to feel like if someone disassociates themself, they are automatically labeled an apostate.
OpenMindNow, unless of course you WANT a divorce you should correct your wife about the Borg's own rules: She cannot divorce on grounds of being a "spiritual danger". She could attempt to use that as justification for a separation, but not a divorce.
the recent & surprising developments in the uk and australia got me thinking..... the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is nothing if not arrogant.
they consider themselves "god's channel of communication", stopping just short of claiming divine inspiration.
they believe that they and they alone are the masters of "christ's belongings" and are answerable only to him.. the watchtower society's legal department carefully crafts gb decisions so as not to put the watchtower society's assets or prestige as risk.
Can the GB brothers sue their legal counsel for allowing them to look stupid?