it's just like online school, get the material, read the books, participate as you would be just participating on this web board, take tests etc. i would suggest that if you are interested you better get in on it soon, because i have a feeling it's not going to be around very long (at least in the same iteration)....i think it is nice for ex witnesses because you get the chance to say "i am certified by MIT or Harvard", give you some pride back in your life.
cptkirk
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Has anyone taken a MOOC? (Massive Open Online Course)
by poppers in.
if so, what has been your experience?.
these are free courses open to the public taken via the internet, often offered by universities.. some basic info: http://www.squidoo.com/what-is-a-mooc.
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JWs at my door last Saturday.....
by lavendar init was a husband & wife, and they started their shpeel.
i asked if they were witnesses.
i told them my son is a witness, so years ago i started doing quite a bit of research about their organization.
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cptkirk
this is exactly what i was saying, and it seems to have worked. although, i would not go so far as to say "most" are honest nice people lol :P maybe half at absolute best.
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The Bible and Masturbation...4000 years of inspired input and no scriptures about it ?
by smiddy inmy philosophy when i was a teenager :"those who admit to it are stupid ,those who deny it are liars" that was my response to peers who posed such a subject when i was a teen .now, being a mature aged person i think this subject could do with a bit more enlightened content.. i am a male so i can`t speak for the females ,who, i hope will give their input on this topic for discussion.and i mean it as a serious discussion.. males experience erections from the time they are babies and the natural thing to do is to hold it , and before you know it fondling it gives you releif.. society doesnt help by making you feel guilty and like shit as a dirty person.why in the world do babes ,young children ,young boys get erections before they even know what it`s function is for.
if a god designed sex for procreation then surely this wouldnt become an issue until they reached the age of puberty ,not when a male is still a baby.. and getting back to my op nowhere in the bible does it talk about masturbation which surely has been going on since adam was a boy/man.. i`m sorry, but to deny that you would have to be a complete idiot ,imbecile ,fool ,or just brain dead.. so for 4000 years of inspired scriptures from god ,nothing is said about a condition that effects every man from his birth to his death .. makes you wonder doesn`t it ?.
smiddy.
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cptkirk
also, if you said to your wife, get on the bed and spread your legs right now, she was going to do it regardless of the circumstances (because she was in 'subjection' to you)....probably not going to have much of a marriage if you did that by today's standards/.
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The Bible and Masturbation...4000 years of inspired input and no scriptures about it ?
by smiddy inmy philosophy when i was a teenager :"those who admit to it are stupid ,those who deny it are liars" that was my response to peers who posed such a subject when i was a teen .now, being a mature aged person i think this subject could do with a bit more enlightened content.. i am a male so i can`t speak for the females ,who, i hope will give their input on this topic for discussion.and i mean it as a serious discussion.. males experience erections from the time they are babies and the natural thing to do is to hold it , and before you know it fondling it gives you releif.. society doesnt help by making you feel guilty and like shit as a dirty person.why in the world do babes ,young children ,young boys get erections before they even know what it`s function is for.
if a god designed sex for procreation then surely this wouldnt become an issue until they reached the age of puberty ,not when a male is still a baby.. and getting back to my op nowhere in the bible does it talk about masturbation which surely has been going on since adam was a boy/man.. i`m sorry, but to deny that you would have to be a complete idiot ,imbecile ,fool ,or just brain dead.. so for 4000 years of inspired scriptures from god ,nothing is said about a condition that effects every man from his birth to his death .. makes you wonder doesn`t it ?.
smiddy.
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cptkirk
i'll tell you why very simple: it is only in the last 100 years or so that women have been able to get out of the 2nd class citizen role. if you were a man and you were horny, simply grab the woman and take her (just make sure you also marry her if you want to avoid that fornicator thing).
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What's the implication here...?
by konceptual99 inthe may awake is online and has articles on is god cruel?
one of the articles talks about divine judgements and discusses the canaanites.. see here... http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20130501/divine-judgments-were-they-cruel/.
at the end of article it says the following:.
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cptkirk
He will eliminate human suffering by eliminating the humans hahahaha.
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Lars: Can we examine your Messiah qualifications ?
by mP inhi lars,.
if you want to claim your the messiah, thats fine but first we must examine the facts and ask a few basic questions.
i am of course accepting your word as honest.. i think everybody is well aware that the messiah will come thru david.
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cptkirk
do you have any pictures posted of yourself lars?
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With all the attention given to child molestation in the church now--
by cptkirk inis it getting any better?
or is it still happening at the same rate?
was listening to o'reilly tonight as i was eating dinner and heard him say that virtual child porn is actually legal, that sort of blew my mind a bit..
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cptkirk
Yeah I guess it depends like you said, there were a few that talked about it a bit. I think it is just a bad idea to dump on them for no other reason than dumping on them at the door. it just re-affirms their views in general. The only witnesses that I've attacked are grown men well able to deal with me confronting them, and it is always when I have leverage on them (based on intimate details). I'd never just attack (verbally) a random witness. I'm not saying that you would, but just putting that out there.
You want to hear something funny? When I was studying in 96 I remember a guy that was coming to the meetings (as someone's study); this guy had a drug problem (not a light one either), the kind where as soon as you meet eyes with them you know they are on the moon type of drug addict.....but anyway, somehow I wound up in a conversation with one of the elders (these were not hick elders either these were elders that were closely and intimately connected with bethel) geographically and otherwise.....so the elder was on the phone with this guy, and he could tell that he was blown out of his mind (he was calling to see if he was coming to the meeting), when the elder hung up the phone i asked if he was coming, he said no that he was blown out of his mind on xyz drug. I must have said something to indicate something like, well why should that stop him? and this is what the elder told me lucid and dead serious, he said: he would not be allowed into the kingdom hall, because the angels would be standing at the doors making sure that he could not enter. These were the people that shaped my early and developing jw mindset, so yea, when the wheels came off, they really came off. the point obviously being that if the angels were going to stop this guy that was high on drugs from entering the kh, they sure as hell were going to stop pedophiles....guess not. :\
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With all the attention given to child molestation in the church now--
by cptkirk inis it getting any better?
or is it still happening at the same rate?
was listening to o'reilly tonight as i was eating dinner and heard him say that virtual child porn is actually legal, that sort of blew my mind a bit..
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cptkirk
Listen, you want to be effective pickler, my advice is don't just drop a shit ton of grief on their shoulders, instead, very politely just tell them that whatever good they do or whatever they represent (for arguments sake) is completely undone by the fact that they do not protect children from pedophiles, and that they do protect the pedophiles themselves. very simple, nobody could argue it. ie. the worst thing that you can do to them when they knock on your door is not embarrass them or grief them to death, but to politely show them that they are in the wrong, and it is not a matter of "i'm sorry you feel that way" ,it is a matter of clearly indicated facts(thousands of damaged kids), just show them the newspaper clippings of jw molesters, and tell them 'im sorry this is not a debate about an invisible realm, these are facts based on tangible evidence', and hand it to them. thank you goodbye, and that is more effective than anything you could do otherwise.
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Happy belated b day to me: 30 years old on Feb 16th.
by Joliette inthought the world was gonna end between 2000 and 2010. can't believe its still here.
been on jwn for almost three year now.
damn it feels like heaven on earth to be an apostate!
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cptkirk
i made some life decisions that i would not have otherwise made based on that premise (the world was definitely going to end 2000-2010). i remember when 9-11 happened and it was like oh this is going to be it i guess, or at least this is going to be the thing that kicks it off. 12 years later....my belief system is in shambles.....and the realization that all those people (family/friends) telling me "you are not one of them", "get a life"(basically)....were in fact actually looking out for my best interests ,and were not some kind of grand test. trying to think of something that is analogous (that is probably a jw trait too--looking for something analogous)......actually just thought of the perfect analogy, it's a movie, "The Game" with Michael Douglas, go rent it, you will love it. might make you not feel as bitter about your jw experience too(to whoever may feel that way).
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Homeschooling VS public/private schooling
by PSacramento ini was wondering on the views about homeschooling vs public/private scholling.. thoughts?.
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cptkirk
This thread was reminding of a commercial that i saw few months ago (why is it that the good commercials always get pulled and the shitty ones stay around forever?). I can't remember what the commercial was advertising, but it was talking about online college and how you have to "haze" yourself; so this big dude is standing in the kitchen and he opens a cabinet, then he walks back a few paces, runs full speed at the cabinet and smacks right into it then does a flip and smashes his head on the refrigerator......why do these good commercials always get pulled?