The culture of silence that was created by the government and the church was a powerful thing. It is hard to remove government from our lives, much easier to purge religion.
Posts by Diest
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306I Believe Catholicism And Its Trappings Are Silly, Strange & Weird!!!
by minimus inmy italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.
these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".
they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.
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Were You Punished by Your Government for Not Being a Part of Military Service?
by Diest ini never cease to be amazed by the sacrifice that the wts foolishly requires.
one of the larger sacrifices is that of personal freedom that has been demanded of young men and women around the globe.
many are sent to prison for several years and have a felony on their record for life.
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I really do appreciate hearing these stories. I didn't know that Farkel was convicted and senteced to two years of work detail. I have heard of a few others on the board who also suffered through this period in JW history. I hope Fernando and Designs post their stories as well as anyone else out there.
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I Believe Catholicism And Its Trappings Are Silly, Strange & Weird!!!
by minimus inmy italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.
these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".
they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.
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Yeah, what was the Irish political agenda when they canceled their diplomatic mission with the Vatican? Spend less money, and tired of a "state" that covered over the abuse of children.
I know about their charity here in the US, it is primarily tax payer funded. The American public owns 62% of the charity arm, but they complain when the government tried to ask them to give birth control to non-Catholic employees. I am thankful for the 3% of donations comeing from Diocesan funding.
This is from the Catholic Charities website.
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I Believe Catholicism And Its Trappings Are Silly, Strange & Weird!!!
by minimus inmy italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.
these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".
they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.
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BTS were you a catholic before and after your JW stint?
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Say It Ain't So, Lance!
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It could be a valid theory. Geraldo wasnt the first to say so.
If his tests came back negative, and the other guys tests did too, there is no way to know who the real winner was. Were they all doping? Just some of them? Who knows, but it seems like it is rampant in cycling so in some ways it is an even playing field.
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Say It Ain't So, Lance!
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Cheech he has fought other oragizations for years. They just keep coming, so it is not a matter of having the balls. At some point you just let them do as they please because it is a exorcise in futility.
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I Believe Catholicism And Its Trappings Are Silly, Strange & Weird!!!
by minimus inmy italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.
these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".
they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.
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BTS my point is I didnt have to ask the JWs to know about the Catholics. Did you point out Sullas condesention in thinking that I just took the JWs word for it?
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I Believe Catholicism And Its Trappings Are Silly, Strange & Weird!!!
by minimus inmy italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.
these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".
they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.
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Sulla,
Look up the History of the Catholic Church. All of the eviednece needed to hang them is contained in history. We dont need the specifics of what the JWS said to destroy the credibility of the Catholics, they did that for themselves. The Witnesses just pointed you in the direction of well known issues within the Church. The JWs then proceeded to fall right into those same issues. Much like they followed the same pattern of the pharisiees.
I dont know about your colloray, I was a born in and the person in my family who had found the religion had gone through a few choices and liked the lack of hellfire.
Tell us what is your theory on people who leave the Catholic Church, become a JW, and then go back? If it was wrong enough to leave once, why did they go back?
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Is going from the JWs to another Religion just a "Rebound?"
by braincleaned in*a rebound is the need to fill a void with something we partly had confort in; whether in romance or faith.... .
i posted the following in another thread, and i welcome your feedback - especially if you disagree with my logic.
"as per one of my notes, my biggest fear is my, our, natural tendency for confirmation bias.
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I guess you are right in one sense sulla, there was an oral tradition before the written tradition. Gods the world over were still created by this mythological process.
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I Believe Catholicism And Its Trappings Are Silly, Strange & Weird!!!
by minimus inmy italian friend loves going to the "feasts" that occur in italy, boston or nyc.
these feasts feature a "saint" with dollar bills pinned around her and they parade the saint in a long procession and chant "viva (whomever)".
they are quite serious about this and are proud to talk about the past generations of observers who appreciated the events.
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How is that trolling BTS. I honestly believe that they would point out the issues in all the other religions. They just failed to mention their own issues.
Look at the issue credit cards donations. The pointed to how other religions were just out there for the money. They are right, but then they fall in their own trap. They do it time and time again. Point out an issue that other religions have and then fall into the same pile of shit.
The Catholic church is a corporation like none other. They are a head of the game and have a city-state, and a seat at the UN. They are focused on power and control just the same.
