Thanks for the reply Blues Brother.
I'm afraid I don't have any further information about this particular situation yet orangefatcat but when I do I will update.
i wanted to start a discussion about known instances where the wt society has refused to pay out on insurance claims to congregations who have their kingdom hall insured through the in-house insurance scheme known as the kingdom hall assistance arrangement.. i know of two recent cases in the uk where kingdom halls have been badly damaged by water.
one happened 6 months ago, the other a few years ago.
the congregations have been told to share halls with a neighbouring congregation whilst the wt society asked for report after report on the condition of the building and estimates for repair/demolition.
Thanks for the reply Blues Brother.
I'm afraid I don't have any further information about this particular situation yet orangefatcat but when I do I will update.
i wanted to start a discussion about known instances where the wt society has refused to pay out on insurance claims to congregations who have their kingdom hall insured through the in-house insurance scheme known as the kingdom hall assistance arrangement.. i know of two recent cases in the uk where kingdom halls have been badly damaged by water.
one happened 6 months ago, the other a few years ago.
the congregations have been told to share halls with a neighbouring congregation whilst the wt society asked for report after report on the condition of the building and estimates for repair/demolition.
I feel sorry for the congregation. They paid for the hall and land and whilst they have not as yet had the claim officially rejected, the KHAA is looking for an out. There is a blame game in play; dry rot has been found and there have been attempts to pin that on a structural defect caused by an error in the design of the bulding or poor construction practices.
One of the possible outcomes is that the congregation will be told to sell a portion of the plot of land the hall stands on to fund the rebuilding. Imagine for a moment that your insurance company told you that they weren't going to pay your claim because you have a large garden and could sell part of it to finance repairs to your damaged home. Insurance does not work like that! Congregations need to understand that what they have with KHAA is not insurance.
I'll update this thread with more information as the situation develops. If anyone knows of other similar situations, please let me know.
i wanted to start a discussion about known instances where the wt society has refused to pay out on insurance claims to congregations who have their kingdom hall insured through the in-house insurance scheme known as the kingdom hall assistance arrangement.. i know of two recent cases in the uk where kingdom halls have been badly damaged by water.
one happened 6 months ago, the other a few years ago.
the congregations have been told to share halls with a neighbouring congregation whilst the wt society asked for report after report on the condition of the building and estimates for repair/demolition.
Thanks for the replies. That's some interesting information Dozy. I wonder if the KHAA in the UK would come under the jurisdiction of the financial ombudsman?
i wanted to start a discussion about known instances where the wt society has refused to pay out on insurance claims to congregations who have their kingdom hall insured through the in-house insurance scheme known as the kingdom hall assistance arrangement.. i know of two recent cases in the uk where kingdom halls have been badly damaged by water.
one happened 6 months ago, the other a few years ago.
the congregations have been told to share halls with a neighbouring congregation whilst the wt society asked for report after report on the condition of the building and estimates for repair/demolition.
The congregation that has been out of their hall for six months now is Hyde in the northwest of England. If any of their elders are reading here, I suggest they speak to someone at the Biggin Hill congregation near Croydon. It sounds as though they have a lot in common.
i wanted to start a discussion about known instances where the wt society has refused to pay out on insurance claims to congregations who have their kingdom hall insured through the in-house insurance scheme known as the kingdom hall assistance arrangement.. i know of two recent cases in the uk where kingdom halls have been badly damaged by water.
one happened 6 months ago, the other a few years ago.
the congregations have been told to share halls with a neighbouring congregation whilst the wt society asked for report after report on the condition of the building and estimates for repair/demolition.
I wanted to start a discussion about known instances where the WT society has refused to pay out on insurance claims to congregations who have their Kingdom Hall insured through the in-house insurance scheme known as the Kingdom Hall Assistance Arrangement.
I know of two recent cases in the UK where Kingdom Halls have been badly damaged by water. One happened 6 months ago, the other a few years ago. The congregations have been told to share halls with a neighbouring congregation whilst the WT society asked for report after report on the condition of the building and estimates for repair/demolition. Eventually the first congregation had it's claim rejected on the basis that there was some structural defect that rendered the building irrepairable. It would appear that the more recent claim by the second congregation is heading the same way.
If the WT society isn't using the revenue from the policies for paying out insurance claims for Kingdom Halls, where could the money be going? Here's a thought:
http://watchtowerdocuments.com/documents/Secrets_Commentary_Version_2.pdf (page 80)
Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania has operated an insurance program named Kingdom Hall Assistance Arrangement (KHAA) throughout the United States since 1989. Plaintiff's' attorneys sought information about KHAA doing business in California. Through discovery, Defendant Watch Tower of Pennsylvania was ordered to provide Plaintiffs' attorneys KHAA ledger sheets for claims and payments. Recorded therein can be found a claim of interest. In the column titled, Brief Desccription, Elder misconduct is listed. In the column titled, Incident, the date lodged ia 01/01/1989. In the Insured column, the name of the insured is Red Bluff Congregation, CA. The amount was for $50,000.
Are the funds from Kingdom Hall insurance policies actually being used to make out of court settlements for abuse cases?