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  "do not go beyond the things written"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  thanks to bu2b and splash who mentioned this quote in another thread!.

  but i thought it deserved a thread all of its own, such is the impact of this:.

  the very best example of going beyond the things written comes from a 2008 watchtower.

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  I believe this is what is known as hypocrisy.

  You get a like!
  
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  "do not go beyond the things written"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  thanks to bu2b and splash who mentioned this quote in another thread!.

  but i thought it deserved a thread all of its own, such is the impact of this:.

  the very best example of going beyond the things written comes from a 2008 watchtower.

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  There was a video posted here...where a reporter jumped into one of the GB's face while he was exiting a convention stage and asked a couple of questions.

  
  It's at about the 4 min, 10 sec mark. The reporter asked questions about the pedophilia problem of JWs, and the Society's list of offenders. Ted Jaracz, not wanting to address the reporters pointed questions, replied by saying 'We don't go beyond the things that are written.'

  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdtPIR6Q_MA
  
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  "do not go beyond the things written"

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  thanks to bu2b and splash who mentioned this quote in another thread!.

  but i thought it deserved a thread all of its own, such is the impact of this:.

  the very best example of going beyond the things written comes from a 2008 watchtower.

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  So typical of Watchtower leadership. Always pretending to follow Bible rules and guidelines, but all the while making up their own.

  I believe that when a person begins to see through that they have taken the first step toward leaving the organization.
  
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  Fornicate and keep quiet, is it possible for a Governing Body member?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  do you think any of the members of the governing body have at one time in their lives committed an immoral sex act but never confessed?

  remember leo greenlees.

  fornication, adultery or something else?

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  This thread has the whole Rutherford / Berta / Bonnie story, with it's details.

  Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie (redux), by Leolaia who reconstructed a lost post by Farkel.
  

  
  
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  Fornicate and keep quiet, is it possible for a Governing Body member?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  do you think any of the members of the governing body have at one time in their lives committed an immoral sex act but never confessed?

  remember leo greenlees.

  fornication, adultery or something else?

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  The Society admits, in a very general way, that even people that have been "prominent in Jehovah's organization" have committed every kind of immorality there is - homosexuality, wife swapping, child molesting.
  

  
  
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  Fornicate and keep quiet, is it possible for a Governing Body member?

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  do you think any of the members of the governing body have at one time in their lives committed an immoral sex act but never confessed?

  remember leo greenlees.

  fornication, adultery or something else?

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  Several years ago the Society published that if an elder commits a serious sin, and keeps it quiet for 2 or 3 years, he doesn't need to be removed as an elder even if the sin is discovered later.

  Governing Body members would get at least that much leniency.

  Here it is from the Kingdom Ministry. It involves a discussion of what "some years ago" and "distant past" means. The terms can mean as little as 2 or 3 years.

  (Kingdom Ministry - October, 1972)
  

  Here it is again, several years later, re-affirmed in the Elder's Manual

  (Shepherd The Flock of God, p38. [2010 Elder's Manual])
  
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  California Supreme Court Case - S226656

  by Gayle in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://appellatecases.courtinfo.ca.gov/search/case/maincasescreen.cfm?dist=0&doc_id=2109889&doc_no=s226656&search=party&start=1&query_partylastnameororg=watchtower bible and tract.

  started 5/27/2015.

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  666 State Street

  Yes, that is very funny. Watchtower's explanation of 666 has something to do with falling short of perfection times three (7 is perfect). Maybe their attorney's will fall short of perfection too, times three for emphasis!
  
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  Is it possible to use this thread to compile watchtowers Armageddon illustrations

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was informed today by a jw that the watchtower doesn't use images and propaganda to instil fear.

  i would really like to see a compilation of all their armageddon illustrations.

  maybe a thread or web page already exists that had this content.. the one i am really wanting is the most recent picture of the witnesses in the basement during the tribulation.. this will be a massive help so thank you..

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  In the basement photo above, the caption raises a point of contradiction (on Watchtower's part) to me. It says....

  During the "great tribulation," we will need to remain closely associated with our local congregation

  It's a contradiction because Watchtower took away the arrangement for doing just that, the Congregation Book Study. One of the prime reasons the Book Study was started was to have an organized meeting arrangement for times of persecution.

  In an assembly wrap-up article in 1953 the Watchtower said....
  

  “Then followed another meaty five-part symposium: “The Value of the Congregational Book Study.” Strategic location is important because of its being a service center; its conductor must set a good example in field service and be kind and patient. It serves as a training ground for new ones, to start out in the field and speak up at meetings. It is of special value in times of bans when only small groups can come together.” (W 10-1-53 p591)

  Watchtower has long said that the great tribulation is just around the corner. In the past the leadership at least acted like they believed it. Now it's just empty words, and tribulation images are nothing more than blatant scare tactics.
  
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  Is it possible to use this thread to compile watchtowers Armageddon illustrations

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was informed today by a jw that the watchtower doesn't use images and propaganda to instil fear.

  i would really like to see a compilation of all their armageddon illustrations.

  maybe a thread or web page already exists that had this content.. the one i am really wanting is the most recent picture of the witnesses in the basement during the tribulation.. this will be a massive help so thank you..

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  Is it possible to use this thread to compile watchtowers Armageddon illustrations

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was informed today by a jw that the watchtower doesn't use images and propaganda to instil fear.

  i would really like to see a compilation of all their armageddon illustrations.

  maybe a thread or web page already exists that had this content.. the one i am really wanting is the most recent picture of the witnesses in the basement during the tribulation.. this will be a massive help so thank you..

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  Thank you OrphanCrow for that pic. I remembered it but didn't know where it could be found. Here is a crop of one part of it, which appears to be designed to scare small children.