i just got a call from my 'faded' sister who still has the 'pleasure' of having contact with our jw family.. my mother called her and said that she and our dad had their circuit assembly this weekend and apparently a governing body member gave a talk... that seems very odd to me.
do governing body member usually speak at circuit assemblies?
maybe it was a branch member?.
I've noticed that JWs will report as interested someone that disagrees strongly with them. Any kind of a conversation seems to be taken as interest. It's wishful thinking on their part.
They are often so desperate to have an experience like the ones they read about they will take almost anything as positive, but the truth is, they often don't really listen to what someone is saying.
i need to speak to anyone who is a mature christian.
someone who has maintained their faith in jehovah and in christ jesus.
i have felt that many things i have been taught are inconsistent for some time.
...I am only free to speak here.
Another mark of a cult. No matter how little sense a teaching makes....for example the generation issue, as you point out....you are not allowed to voice your feelings in the Watchtower. You are only permitted to accept it all, regardless of how silly some of it may be.
so i was poking around jw.org a lil recently...... noticed this advertisement was still present in the 'privileged' section (ie you gotta have login access).
this was posted on jw.org a little over a year ago (as shown in pic) but since it is still viewable......figured it is fair-game for jwn fodder.
thoughts?????.
...these cars are all miled out and overpriced.
Up to 95,000 miles? Ah yes, but they are theocratic miles brother. As to the price, would Jehovah ask you to pay too much for a car?
i need to speak to anyone who is a mature christian.
someone who has maintained their faith in jehovah and in christ jesus.
i have felt that many things i have been taught are inconsistent for some time.
The " issue" is the never ending cycle of guilt when every six months the C.O comes around and I feel horrible about myself.
It's designed that way. In the Organization you will never really feel good about yourself. If you become a ministerial servant you will be made to feel guilty because you aren't doing enough, because you aren't an elder, because you aren't spending enough time with your family, because you aren't going in feild service enough, etc.
If you become an elder you will feel guilty for other reasons too. It doesn't end.
This is one trade mark of a cult. (Unfortunately Watchtower has several cult-like characteristics about it.) Working in the interests of Jesus and Jehovah should bring contentment, but working for Watchtower will bring feelings that you are never doing enough. That is one of the key things that clue many people in that the Organization doesn't represent the Truth, as it claims.
i need to speak to anyone who is a mature christian.
someone who has maintained their faith in jehovah and in christ jesus.
i have felt that many things i have been taught are inconsistent for some time.
I love people, and I want to encourage my Brothers and Sisters to do their personal best...I have no desire for authority or position...
That is a wonderful place to be. You can be encouraging to your Bros and Sis without title, position, or office. Having no desire for authority or position will make you more effective than if you had the desire for prominence. Why? I believe you have answered that...
I find people that are position minded extremely difficult to deal with and to be around.
People will appreciate you much more without the negative attitudes that you yourself see in others. Most men in JW positions of responsibility are position minded, they lack humility, and they will only go by the letter of the law....the law being whatever the Society says whether it is kind, loving, shows fellow feeling, and is Scriptural or not.
You appear to have true humility and can see problems within the Organization, at least to some extent. If you are reading Franz' book(s) you will get to know many things that are wrong with Watchtower.
Perhaps your desires to help people could be applied by helping JWs to see that the Watchtower is not 'God's spirit directed organization on earth' as it claims to be.
Continue learning about the Organization by putting it to the test, read about the problems others see in it, learn it's true history. Don't ignore issues that raise serious questions. In time, you will see what you should be doing.
You are at a cross roads.
hot day working in the shed when one middle aged and two older ladies pull up outside... out two hop and of course it was obvious...i said,.
''ah, your the millerites!
''...blank looks,.
I also deliberatly used a number of non jwtalk terms as i didn't want them to catch up that i was exjw.
Very alert of you to do that.
hot day working in the shed when one middle aged and two older ladies pull up outside... out two hop and of course it was obvious...i said,.
''ah, your the millerites!
''...blank looks,.
I hope they really do embrace the internet, and pay attention to the documented information they will find regarding the UN/NGO scandal.
Very nice job of planting seeds Oz!
did anybody see 20/20 investigation discovery earlier this evening?
it was all about kelly jarka who is serving a life sentence for the murder of his wife.
took place in murietta, california.
BTTT for Dagnesy's last post. Good question.
i can recall sometime ago in the 60`s 70`s or theirabouts,it when they first printed their own songbook must have been before the org.copyrighted their material,and the reason they did that is because some brothers were stealing the tunes ?
maybe modifying them and passing them off as their own for commercial gain?
( i know some of you are going to say wtf ?
Disney!...Tell me if I'm wrong!
You're not wrong. There was a mention or two on the first page of this thread regarding Disney songs.
Terry's post 12256 for one.
i can recall sometime ago in the 60`s 70`s or theirabouts,it when they first printed their own songbook must have been before the org.copyrighted their material,and the reason they did that is because some brothers were stealing the tunes ?
maybe modifying them and passing them off as their own for commercial gain?
( i know some of you are going to say wtf ?
My apologies for being slightly off topic, but when the latest song book came out a thread appeard here showing the differences in lyrics between the new book and the previous one.
The latest book draws attention away from Jehovah/Jesus/Holy Spirit and directs it more to the Organization. Does anyone know where I can find the thread?
