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  1st Century Dude with a Bible in Yesterdays WT?

  by LostGeneration in

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  2. bible

  saw this pic and kind of made me laugh, wondering if any who still attend heard anyone comment that the guy had his "bible" with him?.

  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/715/bibleimage.jpg/.

  sorry can't seem to get it to appear, follow the link to see....

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  Based on the information so far (nod to Blondie) it seems borderline whether codexs existed in the 1st Century or only scrolls.

  The Century is in question, but as BluesBrother pointed out apostasy exploded at the beginning of the 2nd Century after the death of the Apostles, so it's likely a 1st Century depiction.

  At any rate, copies of Scripture were very rare at the time. Isn't it true that a person needed to be wealthy to own one? An ordinary Christian family man would not have been able to have the Scriptures, scroll or codex. And if he did have one, it seems unlikely he would have carryied it around in public.

  As Phizzy says, they are making early Christians look just like modern JWs.
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  1st Century Dude with a Bible in Yesterdays WT?

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  saw this pic and kind of made me laugh, wondering if any who still attend heard anyone comment that the guy had his "bible" with him?.

  http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/715/bibleimage.jpg/.

  sorry can't seem to get it to appear, follow the link to see....

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  If it really is from the 1st Century, wouldn't any copies of Scriptue have been in scroll form?

  Not quite sure myself.

  Edit: Whoops! Blondie's post got there before mine.
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  Menlo Park KH Lawsuit Dismissed

  by Gayle in

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  An excerpt,

  A federal judge dismissed the Menlo Park Kingdom Hall lawsuit last week due to filing and jurisdictional issues.

  The judge’s decision to dismiss was not related to the issues in dispute or any of the civil or criminal acts alleged in the case. She dismissed the lawsuit due to the lack of federal jurisdiction over the issues involved. In her written opinion, she pointed out that her court did not have the authority to rule on most of the charges outlined in the plaintiffs lawsuit.
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  The music that moves you....

  by FlyingHighNow in

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  once when i was profoundly sad for too many days, my brother in law sent us a mix tape.

  he named each song after a person in our family.

  this is the one he named heather.

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  Jolene...I even like the singer better.

  That was good. It's no wonder. The singer turns out to be Norah Jones!
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  Whistleblower — Watchtower’s Dump

  by Marvin Shilmer in

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  2. friends

  whistleblower watchtowers dump.

  today i added a new article to my blog sharing the whistleblowers letter to new yorks department of environmental conservation (dec) disclosing watchtowers pollution sites and incidents related to it.

  my article is titled whistleblower watchtowers dump and is available at: http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com/2011/12/whistleblower-watchtowers-dump.html.

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  I am certainly not in the know about such things, but the receipt gives some information that doesn not seem to suggest a normal tax that is routinely paid.

  It says,

  For: Case #3-19990826-43 WTF Shale Mine

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  Division: Legal Affairs

  Are taxes usually paid by Case Number to the Legal Affairs division? Or does this suggest a legal violation?

  Acronymfinder.com gives one meaning of WTF as "Wastewater Treatment Facility." Atlantis notes (on page 2 of this thread) that the fine was for "polluting a pond." These two pieces of information would seem to suggest that wastewater was mismanaged by Watchtower, resulting in pollution.

  If someone is familiar with the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation, perhaps they could look into Case #3-19990826-43 for more meaningful information.

  (In case anyone is wondering what Watchtower is doing with a Shale Mine, when I toured Watchtower Farms more than 30 years ago I remember seeing the open pit shale mine. As I recall, the shale was crushed and spread over dirt roads to pave them.)

  
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  A Letter From The Writing Department

  by Bangalore in

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  I'm not one to make a big deal about subliminal images because many of them are just to vague to be meaningful, to me. But there are a few that need explaining.

  Does anyone have an idea about why Watchtower would insert such images into their publications? What does Watchtower hope to achieve?
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  Question for those who know

  by truthseeker1969 in

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  2. friends

  as you all know i am not the sharpest tool in the ice box, the old lady is!.

  can anyone tell me if it is in the elders book that is says if an elder commits serious sin doesnt report it and is found out, but, has the respect of the congregation it is assumed it is forgiven?.

  also, one comment i read states that elders were told to destroy certain files when the data protection act came out in britain, what were those files and does anyone know anything about it?.

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  A thread here,

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/7414/1/WTS-SAYS-ELDERS-SINS-DONT-COUNT#87017

  shows that if an elder's sin was kept secret for 2 or 3 years, and the elder had the respect of the congregation, then it was a sign of Jehovah's forgiveness. No, the sin didn't have to be made public. Yes, he could keep his position.

  The information was presented in the first Organization book, and clarified in a 1972 Kingdom Ministry, so it predates the current elder's manual by almost 40 years.
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  The music that moves you....

  by FlyingHighNow in

  1. social
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  once when i was profoundly sad for too many days, my brother in law sent us a mix tape.

  he named each song after a person in our family.

  this is the one he named heather.

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  George Harrison, Ringo Starr, Eric Clapton, Rosanne Cash and others.

  All led by Rock-a-billy legend Carl Perkins.

  School is in session, and it's a fun session!

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztLEF8Obo9c

  (Sure hope the post works. If not, you'll need to click the link.)

  @ FHN, I love Dean Martin!
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  Hilarious picture in April 15th 2012 WT

  by Mickey mouse in

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  Vanderhoven said,

  I can't stop laughing. Look at those eyes!

  Was just thinking the same thing. They are way too 'gleeful' looking.
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  Still a hard line on DF family members WTApr15 2012

  by Gladring in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the april 2012 wt study article has some of the most strongly worded statements about contact with disfellowshipped family members.. page 12, paragraph 17: -.

  good that can come when a family loyally.

  upholds jehovahs decree not to associate.

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  "...he tried to involve himself in their activities, but to their credit, each member of the family was steadfast in nothaving any contact with him...Think of that if you are ever tempted to violate God’s command not to associate with your disfellowshipped relatives."

  How many good people can really be buying in to this kind of thinking? How many JWs, deep down, really agree with it?

  As Watchtower tires to clamp down harder, it put it's foot deeper into it's own mouth.

  As it puts it's foot deeper into it's own mouth, it receives more unwanted backlash.

  As it receives more unwanted backlash, it has to clamp down harder.

  Watchtower is creating a vicious cycle, a downward spiral, for itself.