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  The Gentile Times Reconsidered (607 B.C.E.) -Part A1 - Jeremiah 25:10-12 Reviewed

  by FaceTheFacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  during the last three to four months, i have spent a great deal of time sinking my teeth into various critical biblical commentaries and lexicons.

  naturally, after beginning to research "the truth about the truth" one of the most commonplace yet controversial arguments revolve around the "gentile times" doctrine (i.e.

  the application of the seven times of daniel 4 from 607 b.c.e.

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  ScenicViewer

  Witness My Fury,

  "My name is Legion: for we are many."

  The perfect name for FaceTheFacts and his many Screen Identities!
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  Of Bethel a Place of Homosexualiy,Drunkness,Psychotic Episodes,Brawls,Sucide,Immorality,Deceit, Control and Cynism

  by Scott77 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "...the intimacy with farm animals is true.

  [beastiality], theft, homosexuality, drunkeness, psychotic episodes, brawls, suicide, immorality, deceit and control is all true.

  the sad thing is seeing young women wanting to marry a bethelite thinking that she is getting the 'cream of the crop' and they are probably worse than a so-called worldly person...the cynicism was palpable...the most emotionally unhealthy environments to be a part of...socially disfunctional people..."wheres caleb?http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/218165/3/your-most-disturbing-watchtower-bethel-branch-experience-no-full-names-please.

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  Vidquin, thanks for the NET explanation!
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  2012 Memorial Partakers--12,604!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  2012 memorial partakers total 12,604.....atlantis

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  ScenicViewer

  From Atlantis' footnote in the OP - A reference is made to Special pioneers, missionaries, traveling overseers, and Branch staff. They are a ll are members of the...

  "Worldwide Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah's Witnesses."

  I did not know that such an Order existed in Watchtower.

  This religion sounds more Cult-like all the time.
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  Of Bethel a Place of Homosexualiy,Drunkness,Psychotic Episodes,Brawls,Sucide,Immorality,Deceit, Control and Cynism

  by Scott77 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "...the intimacy with farm animals is true.

  [beastiality], theft, homosexuality, drunkeness, psychotic episodes, brawls, suicide, immorality, deceit and control is all true.

  the sad thing is seeing young women wanting to marry a bethelite thinking that she is getting the 'cream of the crop' and they are probably worse than a so-called worldly person...the cynicism was palpable...the most emotionally unhealthy environments to be a part of...socially disfunctional people..."wheres caleb?http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/218165/3/your-most-disturbing-watchtower-bethel-branch-experience-no-full-names-please.

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  Visquin, what does NET refer to in your post?
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  Born in, Convert or 1975er?

  by Think About It in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  does a person's involvement in the jw religion usually fall into one of these 3 categories?.

  a) born in.

  b) convert.

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  ScenicViewer

  Convert, but in the days leading up to 1975.

  I swallowed the whole thing, hook, line and sinker.

  It all appeared to make sense at the time, and I did not bother to research the history of Watchtower. If I had I surely would have learned about it's long history of making false predictions.
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  DJEGGNOG, What Is Your View On The Slave's New Teachings?

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dear djegg, with your wisdom and insights into the watchtower theology, do you agree with their new "faithful slave" teaching?

  you have not posted for a while, can you share your insights please?

  i ask djegg because very few know jw theology the way he/she knows their doctrines and dogmas.

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  Was DJ banned?
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  JUST finished The Gentile Times Reconsidered!

  by FaceTheFacts in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having just finished reading the gtr (4th edition), i've compiled my notes and observations and am composing a comprehensive review/analysis of many sections.

  so my question: would anyone be interested in reading and/or participating in a discussion about a number of jonnson's viewpoint?

  be assured, it will be of substantial merit and not the typical superficial and remiss arguments you perhaps expect from someone who is a jw.. .

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  FaceTheFacts,

  The thread should be up today.

  I'll be watching for it!
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  JUST finished The Gentile Times Reconsidered!

  by FaceTheFacts in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having just finished reading the gtr (4th edition), i've compiled my notes and observations and am composing a comprehensive review/analysis of many sections.

  so my question: would anyone be interested in reading and/or participating in a discussion about a number of jonnson's viewpoint?

  be assured, it will be of substantial merit and not the typical superficial and remiss arguments you perhaps expect from someone who is a jw.. .

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  ScenicViewer

  Since you are only using this thread to judge interest, count me in as wanting to read your thoughts, and others' responses, on Gentile Times Reconsidered.

  Recovery, StillRecovery, OlinMoyle48 and Ethos would start threads promising comments on a subject that never came. Their posts would usually deteriorate into arguments that had nothing to do with the promised topic despite many posters showing interest. This made them appear to be confrontational and argumentative, beneath a facade of sincerity, which may have something to do with why they were banned.

  I hope this isn't going to be another one of those.

  When will you start the comments?
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  JUST finished The Gentile Times Reconsidered!

  by FaceTheFacts in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having just finished reading the gtr (4th edition), i've compiled my notes and observations and am composing a comprehensive review/analysis of many sections.

  so my question: would anyone be interested in reading and/or participating in a discussion about a number of jonnson's viewpoint?

  be assured, it will be of substantial merit and not the typical superficial and remiss arguments you perhaps expect from someone who is a jw.. .

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  ScenicViewer

  FaceTheFacts,

  Face The Facts is one of my fav Rutherford-era publications as well. Hope that clears that up for ya.

  Londo111

  From page 46: "Would it be Scripturally proper f or them [the Great Crowd] to now marry a nd begin to rear children? No, is the answer, which is supported by the Scriptures."

  Londo111, thanks for the download link.

  I read some of the booklet under the topic of marrying and having children. Jonadabs (other sheep) were encouraged to wait to marry and have children. Why? Because armageddon was only a few years away!

  (Face The Facts p50 par1)
  “Those Jonadabs who now contemplate marriage, it would seem, would do better if they wait a few years, until the fiery storm of Armageddon is gone, and to then, enter the marital relationship and enjoy the blessings of participating in filling the earth with righteousness and perfect children.”

  FaceTheFacts, that booklet is now one of my favorites too, if you get my meaning. Armageddon was always just around the corner and peoples lives were seriously impacted by the false hope.

  Frankly though, there isn't much difference between any of the Rutherford era books and booklets that I can see.

  I'm wondering, why would you adopt the name of a booklet that promoted such embarrassing false teachings? What exactly makes it your favorite?
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  New letter RE public witnessing.. omg they are setting up stands!!!

  by BigE in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this link contains news of a letter sent to the elders about witnesses setting up stands to peddle literature in public places!

  how desperate are they?

  it sounds sad honestly... and they are told not to argue with apostates .

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  ScenicViewer

  What's old is new again.

  Literature stands have been used before, although it's been a while.

  Notice the message that was being peddled prior to 1925. Today's Watchtower information will be about as reliable.

  - Millions now living will never die.
  - You may be one of them.
  - The World has ended!
  - The Golden Age is here!
  - This means what it says!
  - It is a fact!