I recently read the couple verses just before the " fable of the tower of babel" in the NWT and it clearly states tbere were multiple languages before tbe confusion started in the "babel fairy tale" at least it reads that way to me
Lied2NoMore
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Major goof in the Sept 1 WT article on Babel and the origin of languages
by marmot injust wanted to point out something that another poster brought up in the thread on the agm rumours, the writing department included a photo of a cuneiform tablet in their article on the origin of languages with a caption that states it is from 3000 bc.
this would pre-date the global flood myth and the fanciful tower of babel story altogether, hah!.
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sunday dinner with mom was a hoot...too bad she is sooooo brainwashed.....
by Lied2NoMore ini went to meeting sunday with the family to sit thru drivel of public talk and wt.
i actually held a wt and followed along!
like most here was able to pick out all the lies, deceptions and utter rediculousness of wt trying to say..."we didn't have it right before and we admitt it, but boy, we sure got it right now, even though we never have had anything right before".....you know....so fast forward to dinner with my sadly very mentally ill mother, who for lack of any intellect in the past was a very emotionally, mentally and physically abusive to me and my siblings, and a mental specimen of exactly what wt wants out of its adherents, leans to me and says, "the wt lately has been admitting how they have had things wrong in the past, it really is refreshing to see the changes which tell us how close we are.
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Lied2NoMore
Ever since I have made it known the WT has blown any shred of credibility it ever had....she keeps trying to "witness" to me and if I try to reply, she tells me to just stop talking...she doesn't want to hear it....WT should be embarrassed this is the best they can get from their members...someone who has been a lifetime member but can't cope with any contrary dialogue so they bury their heads in the ground...sad indeed
I forgot I also said truth should stand up to scrutiny. ..but WT detests being scrutinized. .its a DF offense
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sunday dinner with mom was a hoot...too bad she is sooooo brainwashed.....
by Lied2NoMore ini went to meeting sunday with the family to sit thru drivel of public talk and wt.
i actually held a wt and followed along!
like most here was able to pick out all the lies, deceptions and utter rediculousness of wt trying to say..."we didn't have it right before and we admitt it, but boy, we sure got it right now, even though we never have had anything right before".....you know....so fast forward to dinner with my sadly very mentally ill mother, who for lack of any intellect in the past was a very emotionally, mentally and physically abusive to me and my siblings, and a mental specimen of exactly what wt wants out of its adherents, leans to me and says, "the wt lately has been admitting how they have had things wrong in the past, it really is refreshing to see the changes which tell us how close we are.
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Lied2NoMore
Can't believe I survived being raised by her....I should be dead
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sunday dinner with mom was a hoot...too bad she is sooooo brainwashed.....
by Lied2NoMore ini went to meeting sunday with the family to sit thru drivel of public talk and wt.
i actually held a wt and followed along!
like most here was able to pick out all the lies, deceptions and utter rediculousness of wt trying to say..."we didn't have it right before and we admitt it, but boy, we sure got it right now, even though we never have had anything right before".....you know....so fast forward to dinner with my sadly very mentally ill mother, who for lack of any intellect in the past was a very emotionally, mentally and physically abusive to me and my siblings, and a mental specimen of exactly what wt wants out of its adherents, leans to me and says, "the wt lately has been admitting how they have had things wrong in the past, it really is refreshing to see the changes which tell us how close we are.
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Lied2NoMore
So it goes...another WT drone thinks it is imperative to just believe the WT no matter what they say and if you dare question them or doubt them you better just shut up. Shut up or be disfellowshiped and jehovah surely wants you dead
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sunday dinner with mom was a hoot...too bad she is sooooo brainwashed.....
by Lied2NoMore ini went to meeting sunday with the family to sit thru drivel of public talk and wt.
i actually held a wt and followed along!
like most here was able to pick out all the lies, deceptions and utter rediculousness of wt trying to say..."we didn't have it right before and we admitt it, but boy, we sure got it right now, even though we never have had anything right before".....you know....so fast forward to dinner with my sadly very mentally ill mother, who for lack of any intellect in the past was a very emotionally, mentally and physically abusive to me and my siblings, and a mental specimen of exactly what wt wants out of its adherents, leans to me and says, "the wt lately has been admitting how they have had things wrong in the past, it really is refreshing to see the changes which tell us how close we are.
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Lied2NoMore
I went to meeting sunday with the family to sit thru drivel of public talk and WT. I actually held a WT and followed along! Like most here was able to pick out all the lies, deceptions and utter rediculousness of WT trying to say..."we didn't have it right before and we admitt it, but boy, we sure got it right now, even though we never have had anything right before".....you know....so fast forward to dinner with my sadly very mentally ill mother, who for lack of any intellect in the past was a very emotionally, mentally and physically abusive to me and my siblings, and a mental specimen of exactly what WT wants out of its adherents, leans to me and says, "the WT lately has been admitting how they have had things wrong in the past, it really is refreshing to see the changes which tell us how close we are. I know how you feel, but I wish you would read the articles...maybe they would help you"....so I said..."I was there today...I did see everything they said...and it is full of lies....you may just bury your head and refuse to look...but don't make it wrong for me to find out that the WT tells lies"..
So she follows with.."where do you get your information...do you get it from apostate material?"
I said.."how would you define what apostate is?"
She sat back in her chair...thought for an unusually long pause and said.."someone who stops following what the bible says"...
I replied.."well that's not me..the WT wants you to think an apostate is someone who tries to pull people away from them....to start their own following...someone who has bad intentions with fangs and big teeth and claws wanting to tear someone apart"....
At this point she is shaking and convusing in disbelief....her color is changing....
I said "the definition of apostate is simply someone who abandons one belief system for another...that's it"
I said "if you want a perfect example of an apostate...jesus fit the definition of apostate to a tee...he changed everything from a jewish system of beliefs to a completely different one....christianity"...
At this point she is shaking and convusing worse and I can see her thought bubble above her head imagining me suffering the most horrible death imaginable...and she told me to "stop talking...just stop talking"
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Interview with "Journey to God's House" author Brock Talon on JWStruggle
by RayPublisher inmy interview with "journey to god's house" author brock talon is on my jwstruggle youtube channel.. brock talks about writing the book, his background as a former jw, and more.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvz-jxx4bpc.
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Lied2NoMore
Nice job I was enthralled thru the whole interview...
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Do You Think The Witnesses Actually Know What They Believe In?
by minimus ini think they know what they don't believe in, like no blood, no hellfire, no trinity....but they really couldn't explain what their beliefs are and why they believe as they do.
do you agree?
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Lied2NoMore
They don't have to....its all about regular meeting attendance...go in service as much as you can....give money to worldwide work....doctrines and teachings are too much to think about...
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Let's lampoon the buzzwords!!
by ILoveTTATT ini am keeping this short because i have little time but... here are my favorite lampoons of the buzzwords:.
watchtower - washtowel.
conventions - con-ventions... i would invent con-men-showns.
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Lied2NoMore
I now call them Governing Buffoons...even to jdub loyalists. ..get good alarmed stares
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Head Gasket Sorted - with pics
by cofty inok if you clicked on this you might be a mechanical geek like me.
some people love buying shoes or handbags for me is shiny new tools.. for the last few weeks the head gasket has been blowing on my rover 214. fortunately the oil and water hasn't been mixing so no harm done.
the combustion gases have been blowing through the water jacket which made it sounded like a witches cauldron.
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Lied2NoMore
Jehovahs mighty hand and his holy spirit surely helped you complete these needed repairs........no doubt Satan and his demon hordes caused the failure and contributed to the design flaw so you would be tested......... Hahahahaha
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4 sincere questions for those that believe there is a God
by S EIGHT ingreetings.. allow me to set the questions up.. after 30 years in the truth (i'm now late 40's) and having established the truth about the truth i consider myself agnostic going on atheist.. i struggle to believe there is a god when i observe life yet i try to convince myself there must be something out there.. here's the basis of my question: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23583116 .
in summary, 2 young boys have been killed by a snake that escaped from a pet store in canada.
it made it's way up through the ventilation into the apartment they were staying in.
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Lied2NoMore
I'm starting to think...it makes sense god won't intervene or display himself or appoint someone to speak for him..after all...look at all the harm that has been done and the arrogance displayed by those who claim to represent god. (Think GB)
I believe there IS something in store for all of us but it will be manifested in his way not man's. None of us had control over our coming into existence. ..it is a free gift just like what is to come..one thing we know for sure is that the human body don't travel thru space well so if we have a destiny beyond this earth he will have to move us out of here some other way other than our present packaging.
Just my opinion..I won't DF anyone who disagrees or has other thoughts....like the GB wants for JW's who disagree